21-10-2003 17:22									#31
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Intelligence and literacy are not genetically transmitted. How can this be written in a university.

	21-10-2003 17:24									#32
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This is fine for the smart people. Within a couple of generations smart people will be very scarce, very well paid, get excellent health care and probably be cloned (if cloning turns out to be practical).

	21-10-2003 17:58									#33
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spiff, davout? have you been to the link?

	21-10-2003 18:19									#34
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Oh, it's the Onion. I expected the article to be a joke (Scholars have a much more subtle elitism than that), but I feared it based itself on real average age of spawning.

	21-10-2003 18:21									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed spiff, davout? have you been to the link?

Obviously not.

	21-10-2003 18:44									#36
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just for comparison: the onion

	21-10-2003 18:49									#37
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I think all here should go get their nuts cut.
That would solve potentially hundreds of problems down the road.

	21-10-2003 18:51									#38
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sloww, unlike you, i have a peculiar desire to keep mine.

(the original phrase i'd used was peculiar attachment, and boy, that could be taken in all sorts of queer ways.)

	21-10-2003 18:54									#39
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Just think of that bastard Che really gets taken in by BG.
Bunch of little commies-in-training running around.

	21-10-2003 19:10									#40
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Just think of that bastard Che really gets taken in by BG. Bunch of little commies-in-training running around.

YAY !

	21-10-2003 20:51									#41
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eugenics, not as evil as it sounds you know

	22-10-2003 01:45									#42
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Whle Malthus may have gotten figures wrong, the basic premise is sound, and has been born out in practice. Every increase in food supply has been met with an increase in population. If you woudl like some interesting figures to look at, look at figures of fosile fuel usage vs population. In effect, our population explosion has used limited energgy stored in the earth to fuel our growth, and will fall with those supplies as well I believe.

In just a quick search for somethign online I found this:

from http://www.holon.se/folke/kurs/logexp/logexp_en.shtml

"The human population has changed very little during 99% of its existence of a million years or so. During this time, the population increased to about 10 millions. Only during the last one percent of its history, the human population has changed dramatically.
During the time from the first settlements to medieval time, the population changed from about 10 millions to around 500 millions. This change occurred in only 10,000 years, or about 1% of the time of our species has existed.

From medieval time to about 1850 there was a stepwise increase of the population.A large change occurred from medieval time to about 1850. In 0.1% of our species existence, the population doubled to about 1 billion.
After 1850, industrialization occurred and fossil fuel usage began. The slope of the curve changed dramatically (even in logarithmic terms). At this break, the human population got the opportunity of using more energy in an activity than it gives back (EROI below 1, The rabbit limit.).
This opportunity is used in nearly all industrial processes, including food production. In about 100 years, 0.01% of the existence of the species, the population grew to 6 billions.
Although we often regard the world of today as 'the normal world', this 0.01% is from an evolutionary viewpoint highly un-normal. Genetically, we are adapted to be hunter-gatherers in a spacious environment, not to the present situation. "
http://www.holon.se/folke/kurs/logexp/logexp.JPG

edit: Thanks missed that in the preview

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	22-10-2003 01:49									#43
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EDIT: Fixed.

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	22-10-2003 02:09									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi How would you define unsustainable in terms of % increase in population?

The same way civ3 does

	22-10-2003 02:16									#46
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Yeah, the US needs some sort of incentive for imigrants or mass child bearing its vastly underpopulated. Heck the whole planet is, people just need do migrate to where the food is.

The food is almost everywhere. It is just badly distributed. For example, Argentina alone can feed 350 million people, yet its population is 40 million and many of them are starving.

	22-10-2003 02:31									#47
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Demographers predict that the world population will start to decrease by the year 2050. It could be a rough road between here and there though with resources, energy and food becoming very scarce and expensive.