21-10-2003 06:11									#1
	Victoria Gold! Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Title says it all really.
First posted on a gaming site or two before Patric confirmed it.
Now the countdown to actual retail release begins ...

	21-10-2003 07:38									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Already pre-ordered this one (a bit expensive due to S&H..but it's worth it)...seems like it has the best features of both HoI and EUII...(from all the information released until now...including the Germany 1914 AAR and the Sweden gameplay video!)

Now, hopefully they can concentrate on Crusader Kings (CK)...even if beta-testing on it has just started, the game's been hyped and has been in development for a longer time (despite the apparent problems with Snowball)....will still probably be out next year though (would be really weird if it didn't).

	21-10-2003 15:29									#3
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Where can I get hold of that video?

	21-10-2003 19:55									#4
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You find the video inside this thread.

BTW, you should really check out the AAR section too!

	22-10-2003 19:54									#5
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I'm buying Victoria without question as I'm very impressed with Paradox's support. They have restored my faith in them ever since patch 1.05c for HOI.

	27-10-2003 02:43									#6
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So when can we expect to see it in Stores?

	27-10-2003 02:45									#7
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Looks like it won't be here till Feb

	27-10-2003 02:56									#8
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Looks like it won't be here at all.

	27-10-2003 03:53									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Yes indeed. Why do you ask?

	27-10-2003 16:49									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Isnt paradox swedish?

Yes, but their releases are normally on their biggest market first. EU was released first in Germany (they did not at the time have a publisher for US), the other titles first in US. Scandinavia have IIRC always been the second place it was released in.

	27-10-2003 18:59									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Chris Wilkinson Looks like it won't be here till Feb

BS! The game will be for sale from a month on nearly everywhere, except some few places where the local publishers has decided to wait. But you seem to be from GB, so no problem for you at least. In Belgium though, things looks gim for the moment, as no publishers there has been interested so far...

	28-10-2003 03:33									#12
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Will be on sale from about November 18th or so, IIRC, according to Paradox, by Strategy First (the U.S. publisher)....still, I wouldn't expect it to arrive at the same date in all locations worldwide...(heck, I have pre-ordered it precisely because of that).

	29-10-2003 23:37									#13
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It's just EU2 which continues up to WW1 right?

	30-10-2003 01:48									#14
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No. It's a whole new game. Much improved, with new and better ways to model for example colonization, and with a revised system for diplomacy. It all ways the best of HoI and EU2, but mostly the latter. Or so it's said.

	30-10-2003 02:18									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai BS! The game will be for sale from a month on nearly everywhere, except some few places where the local publishers has decided to wait. But you seem to be from GB, so no problem for you at least. In Belgium though, things looks gim for the moment, as no publishers there has been interested so far...

Actually not necessarily true. In the case of the UK, Paradox apparently still has been unable to locate a publisher, so by the time one is located you're looking at around a February time for release. I'm unclear in Paradox was unwilling to use the same publisher they have utilized for previous games, or are having trouble attracting a Publisher's interest.

	30-10-2003 02:19									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin It's just EU2 which continues up to WW1 right?

Actually the game focuses on the Victorian Age with the game covering the years 1835-1920. Read up in the official forums for more details about game improvements.

	30-10-2003 21:13									#17
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Quote from Fredrick(part of Paradox):

quote: Koch UK publishes for the UK.

Nothing said about the release date, but as they have one, I guess it won't take too long.

	31-10-2003 04:01									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai Quote from Fredrick(part of Paradox): Nothing said about the release date, but as they have one, I guess it won't take too long.

Unless I hear something to the contrary from Paradox, I'm assuming we're still looking at a February release date like they previously predicted for the UK. Realisticly we're looking at a situation where Koch is booked for the holidays and these sort of games simply don't go from gold to stores as quickly as some mainstream titles.

	02-11-2003 01:50									#19
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I've preordered mine from Canada - can't be bothered waiting till Feb

	02-11-2003 02:58									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

There's too many really great games being released all of a sudden. Where were they all last summer?

	02-11-2003 04:07									#21
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

With all the delays, maybe you get CK next summer?

	03-11-2003 22:22									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Cookie Monster I'm buying Victoria without question as I'm very impressed with Paradox's support. They have restored my faith in them ever since patch 1.05c for HOI.

Second that. Plus the modding community rocks.

	04-11-2003 23:36									#23
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i thought 1.05c wasnt official?
So when is it likely to be seen in the Stores in Germany?

	05-11-2003 00:40									#24
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Germany has the same publisher at the UK one, although they agreed a deal a while ago - I assume it's not to dis-similar to the US date. There's a list on the Paradox forums about this but of course it's down...

	05-11-2003 01:41									#25
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Up again.

Here's the Germany bit:

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Site                   Location  Preorder  Ver   Cost    ShippingGER/POL  Notes
www.joysoft.de         GER       Yes       SF?   ?? EUR  ??               ships 20.11
www.softunity.com      GER       Yes       KOCH  40 EUR  3-7 EUR/ ??      ships 26.11
www.amazon.de          GER       Yes       KOCH? 40 EUR  3 /13 EUR        ships 27.11

	05-11-2003 15:09									#26
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Thanx
3 Weeks thats pretty okay to me :=)

This whole February Stuff worried me.


BTW: (amazon has no shipping costs if ordering above 20€) ;=)

	05-11-2003 17:39									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Main_Brain Thanx 3 Weeks thats pretty okay to me :=) This whole February Stuff worried me. BTW: (amazon has no shipping costs if ordering above 20€) ;=)

The UK version will not be out until February - from a Post by Patric!

	06-11-2003 00:53									#28
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Hey UD

you really should come back to us, we miss you.

	06-11-2003 01:28									#29
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Not this time - I have my principles and I am true to them ..... thanks anyway

	06-11-2003 08:51									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Janbalk Yes, but their releases are normally on their biggest market first. EU was released first in Germany (they did not at the time have a publisher for US), the other titles first in US. Scandinavia have IIRC always been the second place it was released in.

Nah...both EU2 and HOI were released first in Russia.