22-10-2003 01:26									#31
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	22-10-2003 01:28									#32
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Very enlightening.

	22-10-2003 01:30									#33
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What?

	22-10-2003 01:31									#34
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quote: Have fun being politically directed by a weasel's fragment sentence piecing and out-of-the-ass statistics

I will. If I wanted accurate information, I'd read a book. I'm looking to get entertained.

	22-10-2003 01:34									#35
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Ok, then don't forget to send him your 15$ for DUDE WHERE'S MY COUNTRY

	22-10-2003 01:38									#36
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Who is Michael Moore anyway?

	22-10-2003 02:45									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka Have fun being politically directed by a weasel's fragment sentence piecing and out-of-the-ass statistics Os, can you please link me to a source for his complete response? All I can find right now is mention of the Trident missile retaliation and counter response

Here you go.

	22-10-2003 02:51									#38
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My favorites have to include "Puritan Fever" during the Clinton sex scandal... when people dressed up like puritans fanatics and read the starr report and went to the capital....

Another one, I liked was the Hitler in Switzerland... Since the Swiss don't trust the holocaust groups of giving back the stolen holocaust gold by the nazis, he suggests that perhaps they'd do business with someone who was familier to take money teeth etc out of those accounts.... Hitler.

	22-10-2003 02:54									#39
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Michael Moore does nothing but spew out his own propaganda and has the nerve to call it a documentary. He cuts and pastes, takes things out of context, cuts people off before they finish their sentences, and is a general all-around idiot.

	22-10-2003 03:02									#40
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How exactly does one 'cut and paste' in video format?

	22-10-2003 03:11									#41
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cut and paste is what video editing is all about

at least before the advent of digital mediums.

	22-10-2003 03:16									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident cut and paste is what video editing is all about

I thought he was makign a reference to copy pasting what other people say, like in forums. Is he angry because Michael edits his films?

	22-10-2003 03:27									#43
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Osweld, you might as well remove that link. They aren't going to read it...

	22-10-2003 03:27									#44
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quote: oh I get it. the life of the poor oppressed black man is more important than that of a police officer.

Yes he is. He is a civilian, one of the many that pay the cop's wages. The cop is paid to risk his life in order to provide common people like him security. So a cop who has to choose between the chance of shooting a civilian and getting shot, he should choose the second.

Nevertheless, you will find that a majority of people in your country (and in many other countries too) are afraid of that the police may hurt them in some way and they are not confindent in them.

	22-10-2003 03:29									#45
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Michael Moore is a bit of heroe of mine.

I don't agree with everything he says or does but I think America needs people like him to help arrest its gradual slide into fascism.

	22-10-2003 03:34									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I don't agree with everything he says or does but I think America needs people like him to help arrest its gradual slide into fascism.

* DinoDoc put AH on the Enemies of State list

	22-10-2003 03:36									#47
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Once you get on that list... it's hard to get off of it!

	22-10-2003 03:37									#48
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Especially since Marines are on thier way to arrest him as we speak.

	22-10-2003 03:41									#49
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You amuse me Pekka. When America begins her final conquest of Europe, I'll try and get you a good position in the armed forces overseeing France.

	22-10-2003 03:44									#50
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DinoDoc, thanks man. Let's say we'll meet in the half way . I'm a one man fighting machine, Northern Rambo!

	22-10-2003 03:54									#51
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I read it, and a few things were pointed out unseen before. At this point, it's two sides telling how the other is blatantly lying - so I don't know whose side to concretely take.

Michael's general rabid idiocy and inability to write without using "OH REALLY?!" taints such a future commitment, though.

	22-10-2003 05:13									#52
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quote: If I wanted accurate information, I'd read a book.

As long as it's not one of Moore's books.

quote: I don't agree with everything he says or does but I think America needs people like him to help arrest its gradual slide into fascism.

God, that is a beautiful troll. The way it seems reasonable until the very end where facism is thrown out is just remarkable. Learn from this one, kiddies.

	22-10-2003 05:16									#53
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actually I don't consider it a troll. America is heading towards facism.

I still hate Moore though. we need more reasonable, intelligent people to keep this country on track. Moore does not fit that bill.

	22-10-2003 06:14									#54
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Maybe it's just me, but I found most of the stuff in his new book intelligent, reasonable, and well-thought-out.

	22-10-2003 06:17									#55
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I had sex with your pet marble

	22-10-2003 06:19									#56
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*hamster

	22-10-2003 06:30									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld How exactly does one 'cut and paste' in video format?

Michael Moore has a bad habit of cutting a speaker (let's say Heston) off midsentence, inserting a bit of narration, then 'resuming' the speech. Only, the speech is a different one. (You'll notice Heston's tie changes color a few times, all during the 'same' speech.)

Let's not go into his attempts to distort the passage of time.

	22-10-2003 06:41									#58
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He's done some good things - like getting transplants and other operations for people who were stiffed by their insurance company.

In one case he held a mock funeral for a guy at the HQ of the medical insurance company that had refused his transplant. The guy got his operation

	22-10-2003 07:00									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Verto Michael Moore has a bad habit of cutting a speaker (let's say Heston) off midsentence, inserting a bit of narration, then 'resuming' the speech. Only, the speech is a different one. (You'll notice Heston's tie changes color a few times, all during the 'same' speech.) Let's not go into his attempts to distort the passage of time.

Not narration; rather stills or outside clips while the auditory speech "flows" on to hide the fact that the sentences uttered in the film are actually cuts of several different ones pieced together to become as abrasive and hostile as possible. It's further charged that the general message(s) (are) even warped by clipping fragments from entirely different speeches in making of the mosaic.

Neither are excusable "editing" - and if you honestly believe otherwise, you've obviously picked your winner before the battle even began.

	28-10-2003 03:32									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Verto (You'll notice Heston's tie changes color a few times, all during the 'same' speech.)

I watched "Bowling for Columbine" for the first time today, keeping an eye out for any changes in Heston's outfit, and after a little introduction to the NRA, Heston does his "cold dead hands" bit, and then Michael Moore says the NRA came to Littleton, and shows the speech Heston made and he is then of course wearing a different shirt. The way that you made it out it was like he was seamlessly cutting and pasting- but with your claims you have been every bit as intellectually dishonest here as Michael Moore was with regard to that speech.