21-10-2003 20:42									#1
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Well.. I've now checked out pretty much all his materials. I know this fellow has been debated here a lot, but I'd like to bring out the tv-series of his. Never mind the shockumentaries, though made with quality and thought, it had some methods that I believe is not part of real documentary making that is unbiased.

So, that's not the issue, what do you think of this tv show? Personally, I think it's pretty good. It's more moderate IMO, and it certainly does bring good things, at least some of them are pretty good to bring out and show what's going on. Plus I think it's more correct than biased in this series.

My favourites include the sodomobile, which they took all around the states that made gay things illegal. Then they saw that priest fellow who is super anti-gay, Phelps or something like that, you know who I'm talking about and they battled.. that was pretty good.

Also the Disney episode was pretty good, for the workers that is, I think it's not a surprise that they manufacture stuff in Asia, but the conditions of the workers in the US were not ok..

But the one where they put their teeth on UPS and they had that funny character going after them, Sal something, like a fat Italian guy in a suit, with the accent and attitude . It was so funny.. So what do you think about these?

	21-10-2003 20:44									#2
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The one where he entered a pot plant into an election was good. Especially when the pot plant won.

	21-10-2003 21:03									#3
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where is this tv show on tv?

	21-10-2003 21:05									#4
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I don't know.

	21-10-2003 21:08									#5
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They show it over here

	21-10-2003 21:56									#6
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TV Nation was better, as nothing beats the "Johns of Justice".

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good shows... very funny...

	22-10-2003 00:17									#8
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Great reality-based humour with a sick twist. Like when he announced a national championship in excecutions, which was basically a fight between the Bush brothers in texas and Florida. Then he came with a chairleader team and marching band to show off among the demonstrators outside an excecution prison.

Or when he encountered a British manager at the hotel that had reported hispanic maids to the immigration autorities because they had tried to start a union and found out the Brit had no green card.

	22-10-2003 00:24									#9
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I've only seen one or two shows. Really liked when he started a wallet exchange program for blacks. It turned out that many a black man had been shot as police officers had thought the wallets in their hands where a gun. The people could exchange their dark wallets with organe ones that was easier to see.

	22-10-2003 00:27									#10
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sounds like bullshit to me.

Why would black men go around with their wallets in their hands? No one walks around the street with their wallet in their hands. Their wallet is in their pockets.

More bullshit from Moore about how all the black men are being killed by cops even though they are innocent.

	22-10-2003 00:29									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident sounds like bullshit to me. Why would black men go around with their wallets in their hands? No one walks around the street with their wallet in their hands. Their wallet is in their pockets. More bullshit from Moore about how all the black men are being killed by cops even though they are innocent.

Just a guess, but it'd probably be while they where geting their wallet out to show the cop their license or ID.

	22-10-2003 00:30									#12
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maybe they should wear the id on a clip on their shirts

	22-10-2003 00:34									#13
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See Oswelds guess, it was other things than wallets too.

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That's one of those things that is trademark for the show.. cruel jokes. But they are kind of funny though, even if you don't particulary like the guy. At leat I found myself laughing many times.

	22-10-2003 00:38									#15
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Has every fan of Michael Moore read the hard report that his latest documentary is a cut and paste lie on numerous accounts?

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quote: Originally posted by Zylka Has every fan of Michael Moore read the hard report that his latest documentary is a cut and paste lie on numerous accounts?

And has everyone who's read that report read Michael's response to it?

	22-10-2003 00:40									#17
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You mean the Bowling for Columbine? I remember it was pretty much a heated topic here and it was noticed.

Or do you mean another documentary?

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident sounds like bullshit to me. Why would black men go around with their wallets in their hands? No one walks around the street with their wallet in their hands. Their wallet is in their pockets. More bullshit from Moore about how all the black men are being killed by cops even though they are innocent.

So all black dudes should watch out about removing/ handling black wallets in the presence of police, or they'll get shot 41 times like that dude in New York.

	22-10-2003 00:49									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Or do you mean another documentary?

All of them.

	22-10-2003 00:50									#20
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DinoDoc, I agree, that he has a style that... well you know what I mean. Biased.

	22-10-2003 00:57									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay So all black dudes should watch out about removing/ handling black wallets in the presence of police, or they'll get shot 41 times like that dude in New York.

how about looking at it from the perspective of the police officer. How many of them get shot when people pull out a gun in the waistband of their pants in the small of their back?

oh I get it. the life of the poor oppressed black man is more important than that of a police officer.

I understand now

	22-10-2003 01:02									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld And has everyone who's read that report read Michael's response to it?

and the counter response which put him right back in the same fraudulant position - which he can't answer even if he eventually so choses to?

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Don't think I've seen that one.

	22-10-2003 01:08									#24
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quote: oh I get it. the life of the poor oppressed black man is more important than that of a police officer.

They shot his ass 41 times!!

And besides, there's plenty of instances where cops shoot clearly unarmed blacks with little or no justification. The Feds are investigating the Detroit cops for just this reason. In one instance, they shot down a deaf man who was wielding...uh, oh, ...a garden rake

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I'll try to dig it up, Osweld

	22-10-2003 01:09									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay They shot his ass 41 times!! And besides, there's plenty of instances where cops shoot clearly unarmed blacks with little or no justification. The Feds are investigating the Detroit cops for just this reason. In one instance, they shot down a deaf man who was wielding...uh, oh, ...a garden rake

well at least it's better than being shot 50 times

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I'm downloading a couple episodes right now in fact.

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I'd prefer not to get shot at all myself.

	22-10-2003 01:21									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo I'm downloading a couple episodes right now in fact.

Have fun being politically directed by a weasel's fragment sentence piecing and out-of-the-ass statistics

Os, can you please link me to a source for his complete response? All I can find right now is mention of the Trident missile retaliation and counter response

	22-10-2003 01:26									#30
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I didn't understand any of that alst post.