23-10-2003 00:46									#1
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We have no iron!

Unless the uncovered mountain 8899 of Izz or maybe a hill 6663 saves us, we have a bronze and wooden future.
Python are OK - 6699 of Camelot. Monkey don't have it in their capital - maybe we'll see about elsewhere. Pythons' is the only visible source.

Proposed moves as per plan :

Nothern Scout moves 2,3 (bump the coast to see 2 sea sqs then east to expose NW of CoS
Southern Scout moves 2 (South towards Monkey)
Settler pair moves 2 (South towards city site)

Izz : Size 5, adjust slider to 0.9.1 to keep happy, CoL in 15 turns -1gpt. Worker next turn, growth in 2 turns (+5F)

CoS : growth & warrior in 3 turns

Swindon : Produced Warrior (growth & warrior in 5 turns.) Order Archer (placeholder for Barracks if preferred)
Warrior : 4 to hill (in plan)
Conscript warrior : 8 (north onto hill Swindon 114 to keep options open for returning for MP duty or following hills NW to lookout without delaying either option)

If this is OK, I'll play it.

	23-10-2003 01:01									#2
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The good news is that we are 1st in Population, GNP, Productivity and Life Expectancy (this turn). Izz is the biggest city.

	23-10-2003 01:06									#3
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Mr Effthree, our military advisor reports that we are are weaker than Python, and average to the Monkeys, and his cousin Mr Effphoar in the diplomatic service informs us that the best unit both have is the warrior.

Mr Effsicks, our science consultant acclaims that we are technologically advanced, and that our research is progressing well through generous funding.

	23-10-2003 01:14									#4
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OK, played.

	23-10-2003 01:23									#5
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****! All those hills and mountains and we have no iron!?!? I should have kept my mouth shut. I jinxed us.

Sans iron, there is little to no hope of fending off determined attack without totally focusing on our military, hamstringing our building. Our strategy thus far has been calculated to be peaceful anyway. This, IMO, serves to reinforce that path. We just have to do our best to ensure we don't get attacked for a good long time. I'd rather roll the dice on playing "builder" with practically no military than spend precious resources building a military that *might* be able to hold off one of our neighbors (cats+spears+horsies, assuming the MapGod hasn't totally ****ed us).

-Arrian

	23-10-2003 01:40									#6
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Yes, that is probably our best bet.

	23-10-2003 17:13									#7
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Ah! no iron?
Now, who has it?
Well, remember I wanted those Archers built???
Arrian, playing it peacefully?
More seriously, if the others have iron and discover we lack it, we might be in serious trouble.
Any contingency plans?

	23-10-2003 17:37									#8
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Pythons have it, maybe Monkey.

Our first archer is in the oven in Swindon, but there have only been a couple of turns since you suggested building some.

We're not about to be sword-rushed, and I reckon our best bet is to position ourselves as a allied tech-shop that they don't want to close down. It'll at least keep us allive for a while. Maybe after maps we can trade for some iron.

Our research potential is good, as is Pythons. Monkeys less so, so there could be bargaining on the cards.

I think Arrian is right, we must risk playing builder to maximise our traits (and good pump). We certainly won't be threatening to our immediate neighbours.

	23-10-2003 18:27									#9
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Yeah, if they want to kill us, they can. So let's do our best to see to it that they don't want to kill us.

We play builder, at least for now. At some point, I have a vague vision of a joint French/English/Carthaginian task force invading the other continent(s). But that's way down the road.

-Arrian

	23-10-2003 19:04									#10
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I like the down-the-road-idea

If it comes to that, we'll have to bring plenty of flags with us

	23-10-2003 20:18									#11
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Thinking about next turn, what do we want to do with the conscript and reg warriors near Swindon?

The reg's just come out (west, I think). Does he want to go another tile or two out or stay close to town?

Should the conscript come back for MP duty in Izz, hang about chancing on a barb, or press on NW up the ridge of hills as a lookout? I'd be inclined to MP him.

And after the northern scout's finished with the last two tiles nearby, should he come down and try those last one or two possible Iron spots? There's no other role for him, AFAICS.

	23-10-2003 21:18									#12
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MP the conscript, yeah. The regular... hmm. He stays close to CoS for now, I think. We're building another warrior. That guy may need to go take up position in the mnts north of Izz. Our scout (the one NW of CoS) can take up position on the hills SW of CoS and watch for barbs.

-Arrian