24-10-2003 02:02									#1
	I just got some 'new' games Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Now that I have a PC that can run them properly I finally picked up Warcraft III and medieval total war and I'm looking forward to hours and hours of creative destruction.

I'll buy RoN later.

	24-10-2003 06:49									#2
	Get a bigger avatar today!

What, no comments?

You're just buying those now?

They're great!

They suck!

Civ3 rules!

Civ3 sucks!

Wait for conquests!

	24-10-2003 06:53									#3
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by SpencerH What, no comments?

I'm excited for you.


Happy?

	24-10-2003 07:06									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Yay, I never found either of them all that interesting to purchase them in the first place. Sorry.

	24-10-2003 07:40									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Civ3??

	24-10-2003 08:30									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

sucks.

Shogun was too shallow for me. Not to mention it had problems with my modern monitor.

I would've gotten RoN. Pretty good.

	24-10-2003 08:42									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

Warcraft 3 is awesome!

I still suck majorly in MP, but I enjoy SP immensly. Did you get it together with the expansion?

	24-10-2003 08:43									#8
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I HATED Shogun Total War

	24-10-2003 09:40									#9
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

Shogun: Total War? He said he got Medieval: Total War, sucks more Im sure (I own it)

Its fun for the first 10-15 hours of play but it quickly hit the stack for me.

	24-10-2003 14:32									#10
	Re: I just got some 'new' games Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: Originally posted by SpencerH Now that I have a PC that can run them properly I finally picked up Warcraft III and medieval total war and I'm looking forward to hours and hours of creative destruction. I'll buy RoN later.

I don't know about Total War, but Warcraft III wasn't that great... it's just about build-a-large-army-ASAP-or lose... and the graphics sucks pretty much... even for those days standard... though I've heard there's a good mod avaliable, which makes the game great, haven't tried it yet though...

	24-10-2003 14:35									#11
	Increase Your PM Length

WC3 is one the better and more varied RTS in terms of different styles of mission, as anyone that's actually played it will tell you. And MP (TFT now) is great.

MTW is a solid game, though Shogun was more of a novelty at the time it came out.

	24-10-2003 16:20									#12
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I knew I wasnt gonna have to go inhabit some other sites. Can y'all feel the love?

I liked playing WC2 (SP) just as fun entertainment. So far, WC3 looks great and the game changes seem to allow for some different strategies than 'build a big army and crush your opponent clickfests'. We'll see!

I loved the tactical combat in shogun, but the strategic side of the game was too simple. From what I've read, MTW seems to have improved both sides of the game enormously so I'm really looking forward to it. They've incorporated some of the combat gameplay ideas I suggested to Vel for Candlebre so thats a step in the right direction Apparently, the next iteration Roman War (or something) due out late next year looks even better.

	24-10-2003 18:38									#13
	Tired of ads?

i too am waiting to buy certain games till i get a new PC. MTW is definitely on my list.

	24-10-2003 20:40									#14
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I have had WC3 since day one and still have not played it.

	24-10-2003 20:56									#15
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 I have had WC3 since day one and still have not played it.

Shouldn't really have bought it then.

	24-10-2003 21:39									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units.

Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ? I found it surprisingly good viewing but i wondered if the AI was rewritten for each battle ?

	25-10-2003 06:54									#17
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

quote: There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units.

the "tactical" combat is easily masterd by just a few formations. The AI is laaaaaaame.....and.....um....and the Pope is an A-hole!

	25-10-2003 21:22									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote: Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ?

rome - total war

	25-10-2003 23:10									#19
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Standup There isn't that much to the strategic side of MTW either. The diplomacy is pretty limited and the large scale strategy is limited to 'where shall i invade next'. Even so its fun for a while and the tactical 3D combat is pretty good with a wide variety of units. Does anyone watch Time Commanders on BBC2 in the UK - i've only seem one but i assume that's a modified MTW engine ? I found it surprisingly good viewing but i wondered if the AI was rewritten for each battle ?

I have watched it one time when some noobs had to replay Caesar's battle against the Helvetii..

looked fun, but the graphics were not that impressive (I expect rome to do much better)

and another thing is that it had some strategy in it, but it's still not the real thing.. I saw hordes of troops run kilometers at the same pace, with heavy armour on for example,
and basically in ancient battles most casualties were not made during the battle itself, but after the battle, when the enemy was routed.. so they threw their shields on the ground and started running... => that's where the cavalry started its slaughter

in the battle they simply killed a troop, and then went on to the next troop


About the AI, I can imagine they give specific instructions for each battle (in the show), but as the player can do anything he wants (unexpected movements etc) I think the AI still needs to know how to react to that... the programmer can't predict what the player is going to do right?

	25-10-2003 23:36									#20
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

I've had three shots at a WC3 scenario and I've been crushed each time. Fantastic graphics though.

Just for comparison, I beat RoN on 'Tough' by my third game.