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does apple ever plan on reinstating customizability and functionality back into its product? or is like the 1 button mouse now the calling card for eternity?
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yavoon
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
meanwhile, the rest of the business world is looking at office 2003.
10.3's nice, though. but right now, it's the kinda "oh, that's nice, dear" type deal. |
I personally like my notepad. uninstall office if at all possible.
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H Tower
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um, aren't most of these new features considered standard for winXP users?
-iChat? It's just a confrencing program
-switch to another user account without logging out and quitting current applications? I've got that.
-Customize keyboard shortcuts for the system and applications? I've got that too.
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And we’re not even counting all of them. Apple engineers have spent months fine-tuning Panther, tinkering under the hood to offer you the best operating system in the world, bar none. We think you’ll agree.
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What sets Panther apart from XP? What makes it the best, bar none?
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yavoon
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor
Except that it sill be even more resource-guzzling, and that it will have a richer vocabulary in the .dic file, what will Office 2003 bring? |
the cost will be implemented into the cost of ur new computer. so it will always bring bill $$$. beyond that tho, I imagine it will give the american economy jobs. and that will make george happy.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999 time: 23:31
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for the end user at his home? not much. for a corporate setting? lots, but only if you have other microsoft products that it can integrate into. something called "synergy". 
for a corporation to fully use the office 2k3 system (that's what they're calling it these days) to its potential, they have to have the windows server system as well.
there's secure encryption of files (info rights management), secure im, identical outlook2003/owa interfaces, smarttags, native xml support, easy integration/import between office file formats and uploading to collaborative sites using the sharepoint server...
like i said, for the individual, well, it's up to you. i like it, but that won't stop me from using abiword. 
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999 time: 23:31
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lol. i'm not asher, so no.
i'm a lover of all computers; right now on my short break from school, though, i'm a sysadmin, and we run a windows 2k3 network here. thinking of pushing them from office xp to office 2k3, so i went to the launch event to see what all the hubbub was about.
since we're part of the volume licensing thing, we could download the cds almost two months ago, which is what i did to install it on my home computer; we got a media kit that had the cds last month, so i installed it on my main office workstation to see if it integrated well, and it does. and now it's availible to the general public.
i only know this much about it because i've been working with it for awhile right now. ask me about their plans next year, and i won't have the foggiest.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999 time: 23:31
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hm. one thing i've noticed, office 2k3 does seem to load faster than office xp. could just be me
i do like microsoft right now, though. their latest eula for volume licensing allows for home use rights as well (even though before, one could take it home and they wouldn't be able to do much about it--it's just now it's legal).
Last edited by Q Cubed on 25-10-2003 at 07:06
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yavoon
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed
quote: its SOP for microsoft to use profits from its OS to fund its other "startup" programs. why is it at all rational to think that it stops there? or has to? money is liquid. and its infinitely easier to get more profit from ur monopoly than it is from anywhere else. |
i see where the problem is. what you said is that the cost of office 2003 would be integrated into all new computers. rather than sounding like what you describe now (correctly, mind you), it sounded like people would be billed for office whenever they bought a new computer, which isn't the case.
profits that microsoft earns can be used anywhere, but to say that you're paying for office when you buy windows is stretching it. not unless you want to also make the claim by saying that going to rent crouching tiger, hidden dragon, you're also paying for 50 cent.
besides, if you think microsoft gets most of its money from $299 copies of xp pro in the shelf, or from selling it through oems, you're sorely mistaken. |
=D. it is a bizare accounting argument. but when a monopoly exists it becomes a lil clearer IMO. crouching would only pay for .50 if it was in the companies interest for some reason(which is a lot harder to think of then in the MS case).
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Comrade Tassadar
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Oh. How nice.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999 time: 23:31
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quote: =D. it is a bizare accounting argument. but when a monopoly exists it becomes a lil clearer IMO. crouching would only pay for .50 if it was in the companies interest for some reason(which is a lot harder to think of then in the MS case). |
ok, whatever. believe what you want. i don't know how it is where you are, but where i am, when someone says they paid for something, it means they either received a good or a service, or divine (and not-so-divine) retribution got to them.
if you wanted to look at it the way you're describing, you could in essence say that you're paying your own salary. not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's just odd.
btw: office is actually more profitable for microsoft than windows is because of the corporate situation. windows licenses are cheaper than office licenses--the reasoning, i guess, is at redmond they figure that it's better to have everybody using windows (so it's cheap), and then make up the lost money on the stuff they use on top of it (office). it's kinda like how the console gaming industry works: the console's cheap; the money's made on the game licensing.
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For being little plastic discs, they sure do have *****y licensing schemes.
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mrmitchell
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cd-rs cost $0.25 / disc
office costs $150+...definitely about $50+ / disc.
I wasn't complaining so much about the cost as about the liscencing that finagles that you assume complete liability and risk without being able to use the disc as you wish.
Of course, if Microsoft wants to assume liability over all the data I lose every time it crashes, then I'll gladly let it.
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