25-10-2003 07:41									#1
	Weird "Thief II" Crash Put an end to popups!

I was replaying Thief 2 and was playing the "Blackmail" scenarios, where you break into the sheriff's house to confront him with the incriminating recording of his voice.

Suddenly, the game crashed. When I reloaded it, I found my latest "save" slot was empty and marked as unused. I had previously saved the game in three other slots. Although these are still properly labled, when I try to load them, I'm tossed out of the game again.

Can anyone tell me what the heck is going on???

	25-10-2003 12:07									#2
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Not sure? Have you patched the game - this might help a bit?

As for getting back to where you were in the game (or near), you can download save games off the net. I'll look for the site for you.

	25-10-2003 13:02									#3
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Ok, http://www.republika.pl/thief_age/thdownl.htm seems to have Thief 2 savegames to download so you can get back to where you were.

	25-10-2003 15:00									#4
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Having to resort to other people's saves is annoying. That sounds like one nasty bug.

	26-10-2003 03:27									#5
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Most puzzling. I'll try downloading the latest patch.

I though it might be a virus, but I've run both Norton & Grisoft & they show nothing.

By the way...I ran across an acticle on Thief 3. Most of the programmers have been pulled off it to work on Deus Ex II, but they'll be getting back to it. Their best guess is that Thief 3 will be coming out in early 2004.

	26-10-2003 03:49									#6
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is thief 2 as good as thief1 was?

and where could I get it? is it abandonware already?
i can't find it anywhere actually...

and i'm a thief addict, poor me!

	26-10-2003 05:04									#7
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The Thief games are not abandonware, but you can pick them up pretty cheaply.

	26-10-2003 09:38									#8
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Thief 2 isn't as highly polished as Thief 1. Still, there are many improvements over the original, such as scouting orbs (cameras you can throw to look around corners), guards that can't be blackjacked, secret passages to be found. Although the game isn't as highly polished as Thief 1, compared to most other games it is still very high quality. Learn to hate the voice of Karras.

Maybe you can get a copy from eBay?

	28-10-2003 08:38									#9
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Wait! Wait! Wait! My computer store has again started carrying Thief 1, Thief 2 & Thief Gold. I think someone has re-released them. (Last year, I bought the last Thief 2 in the store & had to go to the next county to find Thief 1.)

IMHO Thief 2 is better than Thief 1--the controls are a lot easier to use.

	28-10-2003 14:31									#10
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I haven't actually played the original Thief. Worth looking at at this late stage?

	28-10-2003 15:13									#11
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Yes.

	28-10-2003 15:29									#12
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Looking now. What's special about Thief Gold?

	29-10-2003 08:25									#13
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IIRC, it has a couple of extra scenarios.

	29-10-2003 14:21									#14
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Ok, may as well get pick that one up then.

	29-10-2003 18:14									#15
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According to Alinestra, the extra missions drag the story out unnecessarily. I can't comment though, due to a lack of Thief Gold.

	30-10-2003 10:26									#16
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Hmm... distant memory...

Seems I may have had this problem too at one time with a Thief game. Had to go back. :\

Just better hope its not a faulty HDD.