29-10-2003 04:00									#1
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3221105.stm

quote: Duncan Smith faces leadership vote Iain Duncan Smith says he will fight a vote of confidence in his leadership of the Conservative Party. The poll comes after the Tory leader challenged plotters to get in line or submit the 25 names they needed to trigger a vote of confidence. It was shortly after lunchtime on Tuesday that it became apparent the necessary number of letters calling for a confidence vote had been sent to the chairman of the 1922 committee, Sir Michael Spicer. Mr Duncan Smith then appeared on the steps of Conservative Central Office, with wife Betsy, to welcome the chance to end weeks of speculation about his future as Tory leader. He called on Tory MPs to back him in the vote - to take place on Wednesday - rather than plunge the party into a "fractious leadership election" which could last for months.

The result is announced at 7pm tomorrow. His chances are said to be slim. The most common word to be used by MPs to describe his impending loss is 'humiliating'.



Thanks Torys, I needed that. What are you playing at? At least pretend to put up a fight against the coming tide of Lib Dems.

Farewell IDS, youve always made us laugh.

	29-10-2003 04:05									#2
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My God, Blair must be creaming himself over what the Tories are doing. His backbenchers are putting up more of a fight against the Government than the Opposition is.

	29-10-2003 04:06									#3
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The Tories are in the same position as Liverpool FC, ie. who else is avaliable that could do the job better?

	29-10-2003 04:25									#4
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What I can never understand is how they voted him in in the first place - he is a pale imitation of that other famous slap-head, Hague...

It amazes me in this country that when we have real ****ers for PMs, the main opposition party leaders are even bigger tossers!

e.g. Thatch-B*tch & Michael Foot

	29-10-2003 06:50									#5
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Bye-Bye Baldie.

	29-10-2003 12:39									#6
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Ah, but Hague was so chubby. Didnt you just wanna reach and grab his liddle widdle cheek?

The torys implemented a new voting system whereby the party membership vote for the leader, and thats how IDS got in. I find it unsuprising that the MPs have done everything they can to **** this system up the arse so they can hold onto the power.

	29-10-2003 13:29									#7
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They must have known he was the wrong man..

	29-10-2003 15:10									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Snotty Ah, but Hague was so chubby. Didnt you just wanna reach and grab his liddle widdle cheek?

Erm...no

Well who are the Tories going to replace him with? They seem to have an uncharismatic bunch. The only one that would probably have any kind of public appeal would be Kenneth Clark, but he wouldn't be a popular choice internally. So they are screwed. No sad loss really It's not that I am a particular fan of Labour, but I just don't like what the Tories stand far: conservatism and upper/middle class privelege.

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I would possibly be interested if the tories became a socialy liberal fiscaly conservative, midly eurosceptic party. However they appear to be only 1 of those things so I am not sure there is a party for me.

	29-10-2003 16:44									#10
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The coming tide of Lib Dems? Well thats certainly right in that every General Election they end up a washed-up party.

As for IDS - good riddance. The latest in a long line of rubbish.

	29-10-2003 18:03									#11
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People keep ringing me up and asking questions. I've got Minster FM coming to interview me in an hour... it's surreal.

	29-10-2003 18:24									#12
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They want someone who is in touch...christ knows why they are asking you

	29-10-2003 19:08									#13
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Conservatives should drop Iain Smith, then go to Zimbawbe and drag out the real article - Ian Smith. Now there's a dynamic, experienced leader for you, especially on race relations issues. He'd probably go over better than Iain Duncan Smith, too. Victory is assured!

	29-10-2003 19:19									#14
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Bye bye IDS?

I certainly hope not... it's the best place to eat around here

	29-10-2003 19:21									#15
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* People keep ringing me up and asking questions. I've got Minster FM coming to interview me in an hour... it's surreal.

The weird spelling of "Ian" is baffling them. They think you and IDS are the same person.

	29-10-2003 19:23									#16
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It is close, he is IDL

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quote: Originally posted by Stefu Conservatives should drop Iain Smith, then go to Zimbawbe and drag out the real article - Ian Smith. Now there's a dynamic, experienced leader for you, especially on race relations issues. He'd probably go over better than Iain Duncan Smith, too. Victory is assured!

There's a man who would know how to deal with our darker skinned citizens.

	29-10-2003 19:58									#18
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and here I thought there were some interesting developments in Israel.

	29-10-2003 22:34									#19
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If you tune in to URY at http://ury.york.ac.uk/ from 6.30pm GMT (1.30pm EST) you'll be able to hear myself and others discuss the result as it is announced...

	29-10-2003 22:39									#20
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Great stuff. Get to hear a real live tory justify the shambles your party is in.

I would however advise strongly against tuning in before that. What the hell are they playing? Does country music have that big a following in york?

	29-10-2003 22:46									#21
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University radio generally tends to be quite eclectic because it follows the individual presenters' music tastes far more than any commercial radio station would... so yeah, if you pick the "wrong" programme you can get some bloody obscure stuff...

	29-10-2003 22:57									#22
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Iain- get your arse over to the CG thread.

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IDS = Toast

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As far as im concerned, I pray he will win .. another 5 years for Tony ..

but if I was a tory, and I actually know 1 (believe it or not, they have not all died yet), I think id be praying for IDS to go.

My ideal would be that he wins 83 votes, and nobody in the tory party knows if he has secured 50% +1 or not

(as 82.5 is actually half, so half +1 = 83.5)

	30-10-2003 00:22									#25
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75 to 90. Not as much of a margin as he deserved.

	30-10-2003 00:47									#26
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So what he won?

	30-10-2003 00:49									#27
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No, he lost.

	30-10-2003 01:39									#28
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And tonight's winner is..............Tony Blair!

The runner up and next leader of the opposition is.........Charles Kennedy!

The Conservative party leader?..........who cares.

	30-10-2003 01:55									#29
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Tory boy! What is the secret of your failure..? Tory boyyyy...

	30-10-2003 06:35									#30
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I just hope that the Tories elect a pragmatist, especially on Euro issues. I don't think I could stand another bout of "The Krauts and Frogs want to take the Queen's head off of our notes and coins".