03-11-2003 15:06									#1
	Does Apolyton need a European moderator? Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

I think we need one. I suggest Spiffor. He is a reasonable fellow and French

What do you think? Who would be the most suitable to this job?

	03-11-2003 15:13									#2
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Apolyton already has European moderators.

Oh wait... you mean for the off-topic forum? I don't care, whatever.

	03-11-2003 15:34									#3
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Yeah I meant the Offe-Topyc. I apologise my ignorance

	03-11-2003 15:39									#4
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And why do you want another moderator? Explain.

	03-11-2003 15:52									#5
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No further mods needed. While Americanism has from time to time shown it's ugly face in the OT, and even a few times from the mods, it has every time been dealt with in a reasonable manner.

Plus!! one of the site owners is European. The couple of times that I have pointed out Americanism on Apolyton, he has been quick to rectify the situation

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	03-11-2003 16:22									#6
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Yeah ok,
Why do I want another moderator? I dont just want another moderator, but a european moderator. Because we dont have one. It has both symbolic and practical meaning. The overall atmosphere in OT is too anglo-americain and we need to counter that. I have a feeling that many (continental)europeans feel a bit alienated from the OT and many just seem to fade away and stop being active exactly because of this.

	03-11-2003 17:29									#7
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:hmm:

What are the chances of your holding a poll making any difference whatsoever? I'll give this until new super-rah passes by on his way to save some schoolkids from a burning building to close it down.
A Euro mod would be nice, but it's not necessary, and people can easily tell miscreants that they're out of order. If offended, ignore the person. One of the mods will be along soon enough to mete out justice.

	03-11-2003 19:33									#8
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york I'll give this until new super-rah passes by on his way to save some schoolkids from a burning building to close it down.

Naw, this is the place for discussions like this. I do laugh a bit when people complain about the American Bias here in the OT. Last time I checked, between the owners and all the OT mods, only two of us out of six, currently live in the US.

	03-11-2003 20:15									#9
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Do you enjoy seeing the helpless proles protesting about something that they cannot change?

You are right though. The reason that the Yurpeans are claiming all of the mods are American is that when they are all on the forums (ie, now) the mods are American. So why would we need more mods if we already have them at Euro time?

	03-11-2003 20:21									#10
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Sorry, I donīt have enough time to moderate the OT

	03-11-2003 20:55									#11
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I don't visit the OT much, but I don't see why we should have a new mod only because he is European.

	03-11-2003 22:15									#12
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hi ,

yes , timezone and availability wise it would be a good thing

have a nice day

	03-11-2003 22:33									#13
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Does Apolyton need a Eupean Moderator?


no, but maybe a female one?

	03-11-2003 22:55									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf Does Apolyton need a Eupean Moderator?

We already have one... His name is MarkG
While not specifically a lowly mod, he does carry some weight around here

	03-11-2003 22:58									#15
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Yes part of the point is that often when I for example browse apolyton, the is the so-called spam hour of apolyton going, meaning that all/most of the moderaitors americaines are sleeping. This is of course sometimes most amusing time to hang out in the fori but I dont think new mod would have negative impact in that sence. So Panag thank you for pointing out the argument of timezone wiseness.

	03-11-2003 23:01									#16
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What we need for our next moderator is a naked supermodel babe.

Please, Baby ban me, yeah! ban me good!

	03-11-2003 23:12									#17
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I'm desperate. I would settle to any european moderating us, even Anna Kournikova would be kinda ok *sigh*

Seriously, in no way I want to undermine Markos' dedication or superpower in this site, but he seems to have much more things to do than moderate at the same accuracy as for example Ming does. I just feel that were being ignored in this case

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	03-11-2003 23:18									#18
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No, I have no time to moderate the off-topic and...

oh, wait, you said "european"... sorry.

	03-11-2003 23:53									#19
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**officious cough** OK, does 'Poly have enough minority moderators? Or are they all old/young white guys, the demon spawn of all humanity?!?! AAHHHHHH!!!!!!

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	04-11-2003 00:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Yes part of the point is that often when I for example browse apolyton, the is the so-called spam hour of apolyton going, meaning that all/most of the moderaitors americaines are sleeping.

Has anybody bothered to check to see what time zone UR posts from

	04-11-2003 00:08									#21
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius I think we need one. I suggest Spiffor. He is a reasonable fellow and French What do you think? Who would be the most suitable to this job?

If we get one, I agree Spiffor is a good idea.

	04-11-2003 00:36									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean While Americanism has from time to time shown it's ugly face in the OT,

Ming....

quote: We already have one... His name is MarkG While not specifically a lowly mod, he does carry some weight around here

Not much though, right?

	04-11-2003 00:46									#23
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Right. We all know that Ming has enslaved Markos as part of Our Evil Mingness's plans to rule the world...

	04-11-2003 00:59									#24
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Yeah ok, Why do I want another moderator? I dont just want another moderator, but a european moderator. Because we dont have one. It has both symbolic and practical meaning. The overall atmosphere in OT is too anglo-americain and we need to counter that.

Geez, like we dont have enough antisemitism, Israel- bashing, and Bush bashing as it is?

	04-11-2003 00:59									#25
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Regarding UR's timezone, I think that makes him an excellent mod, since I tend to post at that time.

	04-11-2003 01:14									#26
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So you think he will have to watch you?

	04-11-2003 01:43									#27
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Now that we have a mod for that time period, things might be in better order when Rah wakes up.

	04-11-2003 01:59									#28
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius Yes part of the point is that often when I for example browse apolyton, the is the so-called spam hour of apolyton going, meaning that all/most of the moderaitors americaines are sleeping. This is of course sometimes most amusing time to hang out in the fori but I dont think new mod would have negative impact in that sence. So Panag thank you for pointing out the argument of timezone wiseness.

So if when the mods are asleep is the most fun time, why would you want a mod who would be awake then?

Besides, our being asleep (I don't usually go to sleep until maybe an hour or two before Ming and rah are likely awake, but I usually stop checking the site a few hours before I go to sleep) is a convenient excuse for us to let you get away with stuff. (or think you are, anyway)

	04-11-2003 02:03									#29
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Spiffor sounds good.

Oh, btw, congrats, UR on the new status!

	04-11-2003 02:37									#30
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Yeah, MTG, I also find it amusing. Whatever is done when we're not here isn't erased. It's still there for us to review and take appropriate action if needed.

But I do appreciate that there is a better chance a mod will be around in those late late night hours. A good selection.