Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Miscellaneous > Archive > Off-Topic-Archive > Are You Ready for Some Football - Week 14
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!

bottom of page
  
Author
Thread   
Pages (17): [ <<   4   5   6   7   8   9   10     >> ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

Deity
The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 10:24
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#181 Report this post to a moderator
Enter the AD-FREE zone

quote:
Never mind that despite everything, the Bucs D is still FIFTH in the league...


But last when it counts (ie, needing a stop at the end of the game) .

quote:
They can still make the playoffs if they win out.




Yeah, if the teams best in position for the WC totally screw up.

Kaak is offline Kaak
King
Lost
May 1999
time: 23:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 11:25 Visit Kaak's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#182 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

bah, the cowboys played the pats hard, and excepting a COUPLE key plays and one really bad call, that game might still be undecided. The cowboys have a rock solid D, and good special teams. Occasionally their offense comes out to play too. If they can get some consistancy on offense, they are going to be the team to beat for a long time to come.

All that is going to take is to stop dropping balls and getting hambrick replaced with a real running back, and we are golden!

monolith94 is offline monolith94
Emperor
New England
Jan 1970
time: 00:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 11:54 Visit monolith94's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#183 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

and the pats played the cowboys harder

-Jrabbit is offline -Jrabbit
Emperor
of the Electronic Egyptians
Feb 2002
time: 23:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 19:19
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#184 Report this post to a moderator
Suffering from ads?

quote:
Originally posted by Ned
Yeah, Ming, the Bears defense looked good. Very good. As good as they were when they went 13-3.

They can still make the playoffs if they win out. Let's cross our fingers.


I'm a hardcore Bears fan but...


They'll win just enough to
1) avoid getting a stud in the draft, and
2) keep Grossman off the field.

Grossman is now the only rookie in the NFL who has not been in for even one play.

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 19:30 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#185 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I agree JR... it's just keeping Grossman off the field.

If they had won the last two games against Detroit and St Louis... LIKE THEY COULD HAVE, then it would be a different story. But now... praying they sweep the table is asking too much of this Bears team.

SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
King
of The Cooler
Sep 1999
time: 23:31
  Old Post 24-11-2003 19:36 Visit SlowwHand's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#186 Report this post to a moderator
Increase Your PM Length

Sweep the table? You Yankees are odd.

Darsnan is offline Darsnan
King
New Syracuse, Beta Prime
Dec 2001
time: 00:31
  Old Post 25-11-2003 10:19
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#187 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Thank you Giants for finally covering the spread for me.....

Kalius is offline Kalius
Emperor
Kriegsgewitter
Aug 2002
time: 16:31
  Old Post 25-11-2003 12:02
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#188 Report this post to a moderator
Remove this text

Gee... concede the safety if you're actually going to do something with it NYG... gad.

Zopperoni is offline Zopperoni
Emperor

Dec 2000
time: 06:31
  Old Post 25-11-2003 14:56
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#189 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Hehe, was Fassel trying to copycat Belichick?

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 27-11-2003 19:56 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#190 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

HAPPY THANKSGIVING

Will Detroit be able to give Green Bay a good game like they usually do on Thanksgiving...

Can Dallas beat Miami and continue their march to the play offs...

Are your ready for some Football and Turkey!

And remember to make all your picks in all your pools...

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 27-11-2003 22:56 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#191 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Detroit takes the ball right down the field on their first drive to take a 7 - 0 lead...

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

Deity
The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:31
  Old Post 27-11-2003 23:29
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#192 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

quote:
Hehe, was Fassel trying to copycat Belichick?


Yep... but, as usual, Fassel ****ed it up .

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 28-11-2003 01:45 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#193 Report this post to a moderator
Get a bigger avatar today!



And Detroit knocks off the Packers...
Final Score... Detroit 22 Packers 14

Ya gotta love it...

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
  Old Post 28-11-2003 02:26
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#194 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

Yeah, that was unexpected. Goes to show you that if you take a team to lightly, it can beat you.

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
  Old Post 28-11-2003 19:59
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#195 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

I was listening to ESPN News about a bad call in the Seahawks-Ravens game that gave Baltimore an extra timeout or 35 seconds more clock, which they needed to tie the game. Apparently, the league admits to the bad call and will discipline the referees involved.

I searched on CNN's and ESPN's site for more on this, but found nothing about the controversy. If anyone else has more information or a link, I would really appreciate it.

But, what do you guys think about such calls that the league admits they blew and which decided the game - for certain. Should the score revert to the moment of the bad decision and the win be given to the other team? (And, what about Vegas?)

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
  Old Post 28-11-2003 20:20
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#196 Report this post to a moderator
Inflate your Upload Space

Here is the play by play. Note that Seattle runs two running plays between Baltimore timeouts and uses only 20 seconds of clock. The clock must have stopped after the first running play. Why?

Seattle at 01:12
Kickoff returned by Alex Bannister (SEA) for 0 yards.
1-10 at BAL 42 Shaun Alexander (SEA) rushed for 6 yards.
2-4 at BAL 36 Baltimore timeout; 01:04 remaining 4th quarter
2-4 at BAL 36 Shaun Alexander (SEA) rushed for 3 yards.
3-1 at BAL 33 Shaun Alexander (SEA) rushed for no gain.
4-1 at BAL 33 Baltimore timeout; 00:44 remaining 4th quarter
4-1 at BAL 33 Matt Hasselbeck (SEA) rushed for no gain; turnover on downs.
Baltimore at 00:39
1-10 at BAL 33 Anthony Wright (BAL) pass incomplete
2-10 at BAL 33 44 yard penalty on Seattle.
1-10 at SEA 23 Jamal Lewis (BAL) rushed for 7 yards.
2-3 at SEA 16 5 yard penalty on Baltimore.
2-8 at SEA 21 40 yard field goal by Matt Stover (BAL) is good.
End of the 4th quarter.

badams52 is offline badams52
Prince
near the magic kingdom
May 2002
time: 21:31
  Old Post 28-11-2003 23:54
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#197 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1669790

quote:
Monday, November 24, 2003
Ravens turned critical extra time into win

Associated Press

NEW YORK -- An officiating blunder Sunday gave Baltimore critical extra time in its fourth-quarter comeback victory over Seattle, the NFL said Monday.

NFL supervisor of officials Mike Pereira said both the 40-second clock and the game clock should have been restarted after an officials' conference over a penalty call with 58 seconds left in regulation. The Seahawks had the ball and led 41-38.

Because the clock wasn't started, the Ravens had 39 seconds left instead of 4 or 5 when they got the ball back on downs at the Baltimore 33.

They ended up tying the game on Matt Stover's field goal following a key 44-yard pass interference penalty. Baltimore won 44-41 in overtime.

"The clock was not started at the proper time, which was an administrative error by the officiating crew," Pereira said in a statement.

An NFL official told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the league is reviewing possible disciplinary action for referee Tom White's crew. The action could include fines and/or suspensions for the game officials involved.

Ravens coach Brian Billick conceded that his team benefited from the mistake by White's crew.

"There was, I believe, an administrative error in there, in that the clock should have been wound more quickly," Billick said.

The mistake came after the clock stopped with 58 seconds left when head linesman Ed Camp threw a penalty flag. He thought offensive tackle Floyd Womack lined up as an ineligible receiver for Seattle on a second-down play on which Shaun Alexander gained 3 yards to the Baltimore 33.

The Ravens called their final timeout at that time, but the clock was stopped for the officials' conference in which it was determined Womack had reported as eligible. The flag was picked up.

Pereira said the conference negated Baltimore's timeout, leaving the Ravens with one more.

But he said the officials erred in not restarting the game clock and play game clock after the conference. If they had, Baltimore would have been forced to take its final timeout or let the clock run down by 40 seconds or more.

Instead, the clocked remained stopped until the next play started: a run for no gain by Alexander on third-and-1. That allowed the Ravens to use their last timeout with 44 seconds left.

Quarterback Matt Hasselbeck carried for no gain on fourth-and-1, and the clock stopped automatically for a change of possession. Baltimore got the ball back with 39 seconds left and mounted the tying drive.

"It got a little confusing," said Billick, who was fined $15,000 earlier in the season for criticizing the officials.

"The official threw the flag because he wasn't aware that 77 [Womack] reported. That's standard procedure. That stopped the clock. We expected that the clock would then be restarted and were prepared to call the timeout.

"But as they were getting it done, the clock wasn't starting. I thought, let them run that and then we'll call timeout."

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren knows how important the defeat could be. Seattle is 7-4, in the thick of the playoff race.

"It's hard. It's like losing a game on a Hail Mary deal," he said. "You're pretty sure your game is won and then it's lost.

"Not to mention the extenuating circumstances in the memos we received today. I almost wish that wasn't part of it, but that's also part of it."

Holmgren, a former chairman of the league's competition committee, refused to criticize White and his crew.

"I appreciate the league being very candid about it," he said. "Nothing changes, but we had chances as a team. It had nothing to do with the officials. We had chances and we just didn't do it when we needed to do it, and it ended up biting us."


What's done is done. There's no going back really, and there's no real reason to change the W-L for either team. This case is easier since Seattle had plenty of opportunities to win and just didn't and you can't really blame the refs for one mistake.

I think it goes with the territory that refs make mistakes. If you lose because of it, tough nuggies. Teams have ample chances to win during the game itself and one blown call shouldn't be called the reason why a team lost. They had many other chances to win the game.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

Deity
The Potterverse
Jan 1970
time: 00:31
  Old Post 29-11-2003 00:03
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#198 Report this post to a moderator
Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

quote:
But, what do you guys think about such calls that the league admits they blew and which decided the game - for certain. Should the score revert to the moment of the bad decision and the win be given to the other team?


No... bad calls happen all the time in games. You can't replay all of them.

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 30-11-2003 21:21 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#199 Report this post to a moderator
Got spare money?

Another Sunday... and MORE football

Dis is offline Dis
Emperor
Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 02:48 Visit Dis's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#200 Report this post to a moderator
Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Colts suck

ixnay is offline ixnay
ACS Staff: 'RoN' Content Editor
I <3 etna, omg disgaea fag
Jan 1970
time: 22:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 02:48 Visit ixnay<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#201 Report this post to a moderator
Get a bigger avatar today!

Vikings get STOMPED by the Rams
Ravens DESTROY the 49ers
Bengals come back against the Steelers to stay even with Baltimore

And the Pats make a tremendous goal-line stand in the final minute against the Colts to prevent an Indy comeback.

All in all, a good day so far.

Oh, and how about those Bears? All of a sudden they're two games back in the NFC North. If the Pack can't win the division (though I'm sure they will, with how the Vikes got thumped today), I certainly would rather see the Bears coming from nowhere to take the division than the Vikings winning it.

Dis is offline Dis
Emperor
Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 03:00 Visit Dis's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#202 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

why didn't the 49rs start Ratay?

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 04:40
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#203 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Last week I said the Bears could make the playoffs if they won out. No one thought that this was possible. But this win today was totally one-sided. The Bear defense right now is among the best in the NFL making their comeback possible.

They have a rough closing schedule including being at Green Bay next week and closing the season in KC. But, if they do win out, they deserve to be in the playoffs.

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 05:46 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#204 Report this post to a moderator
Increase Your PM Length

If the Bears win the Central Division... it will just prove how bad the division is. The Vikings are looking worse every week... The Pack sucks if Green doesn't score...
And isn't Detroit still in the hunt...

They all suck... But at least the Bears have beaten every team they've played in the AFC West... BRING ON KANSAS CITY

Ned is offline Ned
Prince
of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 05:55
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#205 Report this post to a moderator
Put an end to popups!

Ming, if the Bears close it out, they will have won six in a row. That does not suck.

Ming is offline Ming
Chief Minion

Donate to the Red Cross
Mingapulco - CST
Jan 1970
time: 23:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 06:11 Visit Ming<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#206 Report this post to a moderator
Increase the size of your Attachments

With the exception of Denver... who have the Bears beaten... NOBODY. They suck. But yeah, IF they win out... then I will think better of them. But they still have a lot to prove...

badams52 is offline badams52
Prince
near the magic kingdom
May 2002
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 06:56
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#207 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

Hey, I resent that. Denver's a nobody too!

Dis is offline Dis
Emperor
Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 07:04 Visit Dis's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#208 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

I gotta agree with Ming. Aside from Denver, Chicago hasn't beaten anybody worth mentioning.

Dis is offline Dis
Emperor
Las Vegas, Nevada
Feb 2000
time: 21:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 07:50 Visit Dis's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#209 Report this post to a moderator
Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Michael Vick is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes I bemoaned earlier in this thread how much I hated how one man is given so much attention, yet he does bring alot to the game, but I still don't think it's a good thing.

ixnay is offline ixnay
ACS Staff: 'RoN' Content Editor
I <3 etna, omg disgaea fag
Jan 1970
time: 22:31
  Old Post 01-12-2003 10:16 Visit ixnay<br><img src=/forums/images/staff-icon.gif>'s homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#210 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Stick a fork in them, the Bucs are DONE.

 
Pages (17): [ <<   4   5   6   7   8   9   10     >> ]
< Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:31.
Apolyton Time is 00:31.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
archivepost
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0618 seconds (88.14% PHP - 11.86% MySQL) with 31 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net