01-12-2003 10:23									#211
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Yeah, I'm sick of them losing. Stupid buccaneers.

	01-12-2003 13:21									#212
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Sick? I love it... hehehe... Bucs are done.

quote: why didn't the 49rs start Ratay?

'Cause he was just as bad last week against Cleveland.

quote: Yes I bemoaned earlier in this thread how much I hated how one man is given so much attention, yet he does bring alot to the game, but I still don't think it's a good thing.

Just suck it up and watch Mr. Excitement . Even though he isn't totally back (still has pain in his leg and is very rusty), he was incredibly. Running past linebackers and throwing rockets! Next week against the Panthers should be VERY interesting .

	01-12-2003 19:09									#213
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A couple notes on Week 13...

1. WTF happened to Dallas and Green Bay Thursday???

2. Bears fans finally got to see the "good Kordell."

3. Seeing the Raiders players dissing Coach Callahan after he called them out for stupid play (like 2 4th-down penalties leading to 2 Denver TDs) -- what a bunch of whining babies!!

4. Seeing Sapp stand up and take the blame after the Buccaneers -- again!! -- fail to show up when it counts. The difference in these attitudes says a lot about why Tampa whupped Oakland in the Super Bowl.

5. I could care less if the Bears win out.

6. As long as they BEAT THE PACKERS! And if they do, Jauron probably returns...

	01-12-2003 19:31									#214
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Just suck it up and watch Mr. Excitement . Even though he isn't totally back (still has pain in his leg and is very rusty), he was incredibly. Running past linebackers and throwing rockets! Next week against the Panthers should be VERY interesting .

Maybe I finally get to use him in my fantasy team...

I also have Hasselbeck and Bledsoe, so I'll see what I do.

Consolation Bracket, here I come!

	02-12-2003 00:08									#215
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quote: WTF happened to Dallas and Green Bay Thursday???

The short week plays havok with some teams. That always has to be taken into account.

quote: Bears fans finally got to see the "good Kordell."

And next week... 'bad Kordell' makes his appearance again . So not picking Leftwich was a good idea, eh?

quote: Seeing the Raiders players dissing Coach Callahan after he called them out for stupid play

Callahan got my everlating respect for chewing out his guys like that. He was totally on the money.

quote: Maybe I finally get to use him in my fantasy team... I also have Hasselbeck and Bledsoe, so I'll see what I do.

Start Hasselbeck (I assume you mean the one in Seattle ). He has 8 TDs in his last 2 games. Vick is going to take some time to get back to where he was (and it probably won't be this year). He is also pretty rusty and next week is playing a good Carolina D. Definetly make him your #2 though. Bledsoe is just baaad... and he usually swoons in the 2nd half of the year.

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Detroit usually plays well on Thanksgiving. that's why I picked them in the lombardi league. Of course I said the same thing about Dallas. But I made the mistake of forgetting about how ignited the Miami offense is with Jay Fiedlar in- though I doubt that honeymoon will last. they are just glad to have him back, their play will settle back down to normal.

	02-12-2003 11:40									#217
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J! E! T! S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

Whoo! Colts stay top of AFC South going into the Showdown at Nashville

	02-12-2003 11:48									#218
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The Jets still suck. If anything, this shows how overrated the Titans were. An excellent team, but overrated.

	02-12-2003 15:23									#219
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I didn't see the game. But I was not surprised at the result. Last year, the Jets were a very good team with Pennington. It looks like they still are.

The Jets, though, have virtually no chance to make the playoffs. They will, however, be a spoiler down the road.

	02-12-2003 15:56									#220
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Last week, the Chargers, Falcons, and Jaguars were already knocked out. This week, they're joined by the Cardinals and the Super Bowl runners-up Raiders.

The Patriots and the Chiefs can win their respective divisions by winning their games this week.

A loss for the Saints would be good news for the Panthers and the Rams. In that case, both teams will win their divisions if they win their matches this week.

If the Eagles win this week, they clinch a playoff berth.


Personally, I hope that the Chiefs mess up a few games so that the Patriots can clinch homefield advantage.

	02-12-2003 19:47									#221
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I am going to be out of town for the next three weeks. I have already made my picks for this week, but might be unable to make my picks for the following weeks.* If so, may I implore upon Reismark to, if this does happen and I miss my picks for the week after next, make my selections for me. My picks (if done this way) should be All Home Teams.

Thank you.

*I doubt it as I can call my wife and lead her through the process, but things happen. I won't have my computer with me and I haven't the slightest idea what my login or password are - and the email address that I used to register is kaput, so...

	02-12-2003 19:58									#222
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The Jets, though, have virtually no chance to make the playoffs. They will, however, be a spoiler down the road.

I wouldn't be so sure. I think they have the best chance to snag a wildcard, especially with the way pennington's playing. There remaining schedule is so-so, but I bet they sneak in.

Im just glad the Pats won, I can't stand Peyton "playoff dud" Manning.

	02-12-2003 20:04									#223
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quote: Originally posted by Ming They all suck... But at least the Bears have beaten every team they've played in the AFC West... BRING ON KANSAS CITY

Didn't they lose to Seatle?

	02-12-2003 20:07									#224
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay I wouldn't be so sure. I think they have the best chance to snag a wildcard,

You cannot be serious.

KC is on 11-1, NE is on 10-2, TEN and IND are on 9-3. These four teams will all finish with an equal or better record than NYJ (in NYJ's best-case-scenario). At least one more playoff berth would have to come from the AFC North, which leaves at most one playoff berth.

NYJ is on 5-7, which is worse than MIA (8-4), CIN/BAL (7-5) and DEN (also 7-5), and equal with BUF and HOU.

NYJ isn't out of it mathematically, but miracles need to start occuring.

	02-12-2003 20:08									#225
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quote: Originally posted by rah Didn't they lose to Seatle?

Seattle isn't in the AFC

	02-12-2003 20:13									#226
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Damn realignment.

	02-12-2003 20:31									#227
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I am going to be out of town for the next three weeks. I have already made my picks for this week, but might be unable to make my picks for the following weeks.* If so, may I implore upon Reismark to, if this does happen and I miss my picks for the week after next, make my selections for me. My picks (if done this way) should be All Home Teams.

Hm, maybe we can ask someone to fill in for you for those two weeks?

Maybe Frozzy would be interested.

	02-12-2003 21:09									#228
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I could do it.

	02-12-2003 21:11									#229
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Are you not affiliated with a team, Monolith?

	03-12-2003 00:38									#230
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why is it William Green (RB of the Browns) had to surrender his home to the woman who stabbed him in the back- literally? I assume he's paying for it, though I could be wrong.

	03-12-2003 00:40									#231
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normally I like parity, but both superbowl teams not making the playoffs? Me no likey. I really thought the Bucs would pull through in the second half of the season (as they have the last few years) and maybe get a wildcard. Not going to happend. I knew Oakland was toast a long time ago.

Well I knew the Oakland coach wasn't good (yes even last year I didn't like him). But maybe Gruden isn't as good as we thought he was.

	03-12-2003 03:34									#232
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Couldn't believe the Bucs lost to J'ville. Glad I wasn't making confidence picks on that game...

Apparently, it takes more than a couple weeks to purge the Keyshawn poison from the system...

	03-12-2003 03:54									#233
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quote: NYJ isn't out of it mathematically, but miracles need to start occuring.

Exactly. There is NO WAY they sneak past Indy and either Miami or Cin/Bal.

quote: normally I like parity, but both superbowl teams not making the playoffs? Me no likey.

Wasn't too much of a surprise. While many were saying the Bucs could be a dynasty, the lack of a running game has really doomed them. Also the D has been no where near as dominant because teams finally began to figure them out, as tend to happens when your DTs go on a downward slide (especially Sapp).

Oakland was just too old. Everyone knew that either last year or this year was going to be a final hurrah. The wheels finally fell off the wagon.l

quote: But maybe Gruden isn't as good as we thought he was.

He isn't. He's overhyped. People loved to jump on him as the 'boy genius', but personally I'd pick Jeff Fischer over him (as young good head coach).

	03-12-2003 04:30									#234
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I used to be a big Shanahan supporter. I used to think that guy was genious as well. But since Elway left, he has led some average to above average teams, but nothing great.

I'm on the Billechek bandwagon now . He is coach of the year imho.

	03-12-2003 05:03									#235
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At least write his name correctly then (Belichick)


In other news, this is the logo for Super Bowl 39:

	03-12-2003 05:26									#236
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quote: I used to be a big Shanahan supporter. I used to think that guy was genious as well. But since Elway left, he has led some average to above average teams, but nothing great.

Shanahan is a good coach, but a bad GM. That's the same problem as Holmgren had. Look at Seattle now that Holmgren has an actual GM and isn't picking his players.

quote: I'm on the Billechek bandwagon now

Same thing as the previous point. Look what a great GM can get you. Belichick is a great defensive coordinator, but before NE he was a bad head coach. I want to see how he's doing in 5 years before I call him one of the best coaches in the NFL.

Of course the best coach in the NFL is Parcells. Lewis looks like he'll be in the running for Coach of the Year, but don't discount Brian Billick's chances. Andy Reid deserves great props for turning that Eagle team around from the beginning of the year.

	03-12-2003 05:45									#237
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Vermeil is doing well too.

	03-12-2003 07:26									#238
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quote: Maybe Frozzy would be interested.

Sure, I wouldn't mind. Up to John though...

	03-12-2003 10:06									#239
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John just left for the week, though... I think,

	03-12-2003 12:12									#240
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni You cannot be serious. KC is on 11-1, NE is on 10-2, TEN and IND are on 9-3. These four teams will all finish with an equal or better record than NYJ (in NYJ's best-case-scenario). At least one more playoff berth would have to come from the AFC North, which leaves at most one playoff berth. NYJ is on 5-7, which is worse than MIA (8-4), CIN/BAL (7-5) and DEN (also 7-5), and equal with BUF and HOU. NYJ isn't out of it mathematically, but miracles need to start occuring.

Not to mention that Cincinnati and Baltimore play each other this week (likely the winner will take the AFC North) The Jets would have to win out, and Miami, the CIN/BAL loser, and Denver could win at the most 5 games between them; so you can just about stick a Fork in the Jets; they are almost done. (medium rare)