05-11-2003 23:45									#1
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How the hell is it pronounce? I am horridly confused, its supposed to be like frenc 'ruse' or something, but i see it transliterated as a 'y' sometimes, and arggg

If i prounouce it like a 'u' i sounds like the diphthong 'ou'

help

	06-11-2003 00:22									#2
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oopsihlahn

"oo" as in "do"
"ih" as in "bit"

"ahn" as in "gone"

	06-11-2003 00:25									#3
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse oopsihlahn "oo" as in "do" "ih" as in "bit" "ahn" as in "gone"

KH's next lesson on Ancient Greek will concentrate on the how to pronounciate 'beta',,,tune in folks!

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eepsilon

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ki o kanadas ton pairnei ki agglia to koitaei

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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever KH's next lesson on Ancient Greek will concentrate on the how to pronounciate 'beta',,,tune in folks!

Ancient greek? I speak science Greek

A is for alpha, of angular shearing
B is for beta, relativistic theory
G is for gamma, a photonic emission
D is for delta a small change in position
E is for epsilon, permittivity junction
Z is for zeta, Riemmannian function


etc. too lazy to think up more rhymes.

	06-11-2003 00:40									#8
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 eepsilon

Science people pronounce it oopsilon

	06-11-2003 00:43									#9
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maybe in malakistirion kanada

	06-11-2003 01:30									#10
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ue-psee-lon

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I don't need to know how to say upsilon

Paitkiss, I think that is in modern greek, in ancient greek, the iota already does that sound.

I will give a few ancient greek words (transliterated) with upsilon in it

sophrsune (in my sig)
phulattein
phuton

	06-11-2003 02:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man I don't need to know how to say upsilon

Perhaps they thought you meant Attic as in 'roof space'?

	06-11-2003 02:08									#13
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Perhaps they thought you meant Attic as in 'roof space'?

wouldn't bloody surprise me!

	06-11-2003 02:16									#14
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man I don't need to know how to say upsilon

It's pronounced as "ue", like you'd pronounce a German name like Mueller or Schuettler.

	06-11-2003 02:16									#15
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Science people pronounce it oopsilon

afaik social science people always pronounce it epsilon

Of course i could be in error

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An epsilon is a totally different letter.

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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni It's pronounced as "ue", like you'd pronounce a German name like Mueller or Schuettler.

thx, but i don't speak german

would it be like erm u-wee?

thx though,

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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark afaik social science people always pronounce it epsilon Of course i could be in error

Epsilon is a different letter than upsilon...

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Epsilon is a different letter than upsilon...

oops

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epsilon = E
upsilon = U
http://greek-language.com/alphabet/

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If no vowel precedes " Y " then it is pronnounced the same way you would with " i " in milk, silk, sink.

If " O " precedes (OY) it would be pronounced like " u " in resolution.

If " A " precedes (AY) it would be pronounced quite close to " Af " in Afghanistan.

If " E " precedes (EY) it depends on what consonant follows the two vowels. Most of the times is pronounced like an " f " a bit longer though (or what ever is the grammatical terminology). If " B " follows it sounds more like " ev ".

Strange language isn't it?

Oh, you owe me a few pounds for the lesson

	06-11-2003 03:22									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Keygen If no vowel precedes " Y " then it is pronnounced the same way you would with " i " in milk, silk, sink. If " O " precedes (OY) it would be pronounced like " u " in resolution. If " A " precedes (AY) it would be pronounced quite close to " Af " in Afghanistan. If " E " precedes (EY) it depends on what consonant follows the two vowels. Most of the times is pronounced like an " f " a bit longer though (or what ever is the grammatical terminology). If " B " follows it sounds more like " ev ". Strange language isn't it? Oh, you owe me a few pounds for the lesson

most of that is modern greek... (alpha upsilon sounding like 'f'!!! in attic is would sound like out

	06-11-2003 03:43									#23
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Can't you just look up (i.e. google) the pronunciations of German ü, French u and Swedish y? There must be sound files somewhere. It's definitely not a 'oo'-sound, 'ee' is closer.

	06-11-2003 03:47									#24
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever KH's next lesson on Ancient Greek will concentrate on the how to pronounciate 'beta',,,tune in folks!

Important question that. Possibly the most annoying one to pronounce incorrectly.

beeta, not bayta.

	06-11-2003 04:24									#25
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bayta

If you called it beeta then nobody would know what the **** you were saying

Anyhow, I doubt the modern Greeks are any closer to ancient pronunciations than modern scientists are.

	06-11-2003 04:28									#26
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Bè-tah!

	06-11-2003 04:30									#27
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the modern greeks have barbarised it from the little of it i have heard.

Zopperoni is right with beta (b ai* tah)

*like air

	06-11-2003 04:32									#28
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B-eh-tah in other words. I could live with that...

	06-11-2003 04:44									#29
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse B-eh-tah in other words. I could live with that...

you may have to


ancient greek pronunciations of letters are quite different really. mr Wombat makes quite a good point.

alp-ha
b-eh-tah
gam-ma
delt-a
eps-i-lon

etc

	06-11-2003 04:48									#30
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Mr. Wombat or Mr. KrazyHorse?