06-11-2003 11:23									#1
	Civ 2 for mac - graphically better than the windows version? Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

First off, I want to say that when it comes to civ 1, NO QUESTION - the mac version was MUCH better graphically. I don't even understand how dos / win3.1 users were able to stand it! My question is this: have you people also noticed an increased graphical splendour in the macintosh version of civ 2? Oh sure, the difference is less than in civ 1, but generally I find the colors to be brighter, the edges crisper, and the animations and videos (council and wonder movies) to be smoother. What are your experiences?


Also, does anyone remember how amazing Civ 2 looked when it came out?? I was floored... When that viking 3D animated hottie first popped out of the screen... wow!

	06-11-2003 14:53									#2
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I cannot make a fair comparison, as I've only had the pleasure of the enjoying Civ II on the Macintosh platform. Personally, I still think the graphics hold up fine even today, years after it's release.

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	06-11-2003 16:41									#3
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The only difference I've noticed are the wonder/advisor movies.
Anything else than this has to be the monitors or something as the units, etc are identic in their game files on the pc and mac versions...

	07-11-2003 06:31									#4
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It seems better to me. I have always been just a pc player up until a month ago. At my new job, they are a mac shop, so I got an Ibook of my own. I loaded Civ II for the mac, and have been able to play it side by side to my PC in MP mode. It looks sharper, but I haven't really noticed any other major differences. But I never even bothered loading the movies.

	09-11-2003 02:38									#5
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Yeah, I think it is just ever so slightly sharper. I think the swamps look better, and the city name font looks better.

I guess the most striking comparison is in the original civ.



God, how I loved that game!

	10-11-2003 19:42									#6
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I agree, though when CivII:ToT came out it took over that place as the prettiest CivII...

	14-11-2003 06:18									#7
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But Civ II is probably the most playable Civ on either a PC or a Mac

	14-11-2003 06:27									#8
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Some would disagree *cough* Civ 3 *cough*

	15-11-2003 00:56									#9
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From an MP stand point, it's not even close. Civ II forever

	15-11-2003 04:36									#10
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For MP probably Civ 2. But with Conquests I think the Civ 3 MP will be improved a bit. Anyway I don't want to threadjack so I will get back to the subject. Yes, I do believe that the graphics are a bit improved. Not an incredible amount but still an amount.

Edited for spelling mistakes.

	15-11-2003 08:25									#11
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I'd like to see a screenshot of the Mac version, if you please.

ACK!

	17-11-2003 20:33									#12
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If I don't get it out soon, somebody will.

	21-11-2003 06:31									#13
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Nobody seems to be in a hurry..........

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	21-11-2003 19:40									#14
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That's for sure... poke this thread again over the weekend and maybe when I get the reminder I'll post.

	26-11-2003 21:32									#15
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I don't know one way or another, but here's a screen capture from me starting a new game just for the purpose of getting it up here...

Attachment: picture 1.jpg
This has been downloaded 116 time(s).

	27-11-2003 05:03									#16
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Apparently screenshots are smaller for Mac than Windows, but otherwise, no real difference I can see.

ACK!

	27-11-2003 23:39									#17
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That just has to do with the moniter and computer. I use a 18" TV screen as a moniter, and at the maximum zoom-out, it looks like the standard zoom. Maybe I'll post a screenshot sometime.

	28-11-2003 21:11									#18
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Sometime!?

Put your monitor where your mouth is!

	21-02-2004 21:42									#19
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the windows look better on a mac.

	29-02-2004 06:40									#20
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Everything looks better on a mac.

jon.

	01-03-2004 08:30									#21
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most things look better on a mac

	02-03-2004 00:05									#22
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OK, so how does one do a screen capture on a Mac? I don't have any graphics-oriented programs, aside from Pictureviewer.

Gatekeeper

	02-03-2004 00:32									#23
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command(open-apple), shift, 3.

In OS X it creates a .pdf, in 7+ it creates a PICT file I think you need to change prior to posting here...

	02-03-2004 00:33									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Apparently screenshots are smaller for Mac than Windows, but otherwise, no real difference I can see. ACK!

To clarify, btw, I just cropped the image I created because I didn't want the whole dang thing to fill the screen, is it needed?

	02-03-2004 11:51									#25
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash command(open-apple), shift, 3. In OS X it creates a .pdf, in 7+ it creates a PICT file I think you need to change prior to posting here...

Hey, cool. Hmm. I don't have any conversion programs. Oh, well. When I upgrade and/or ever get the urge to post screen captures, I'll do it then.

Gatekeeper

	02-03-2004 17:12									#26
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If you want to take a pic of a part of the screen use Apple-Shift 4 and you get a crosshair selector. If you press space you get a camera which will automatically take pics of specific windows.

Download the Quickimage plugin and you can crop and scale from the Finder.

	02-03-2004 23:43									#27
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**rubs hands evilly** Yes, that's it, keep the enlightenment flowing!

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	03-03-2004 20:24									#28
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quickimage is OS X, though, isn't it?

GK still is on something older, 8.6 wasn't it?

If you want the pictures edited, converted, or something, just warn me in a PM and then e-mail them to me and I'll happily do it for you.

	04-03-2004 00:01									#29
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Yep, I'm still creaking along on 8.6 ... Steady as she goes, mate!

	04-03-2004 00:34									#30
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Hey, at least you're to the point that you can use USB devices...

And here I am worried that I'll have to do some heavy hunting for Classic and OS 9 whenever I finally get a new G5 (or by the time I can get a new computer, G6) since I don't know where the install disks are anymore...

Gotta play my Civ! I just need to find Carbonized, unofficial versions of Civ2 and CtP like I did SMAC/SMAX. Or learn how to cargonize myself.