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Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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Oct 1999
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I'm pretty certain I'll be getting a 2:1 thanks. Those who have firsts tend to have neglected things that are more important than the distinction between a first and an upper second.

I'm surprised you didn't dispute my last comment. I was looking for a good debate about that.

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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Feb 2000
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Well as I have said, the West has a good standard of living compared to the rest of the world on the whole - this is not my issue. Now shuffle off and go and have a good mass debate

Park Avenue is offline Park Avenue
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What else did you want to say?

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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? Nothing. Besides, surely you should be out on the lash tonight?

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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The Potterverse
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Up until the 1980's, not only was University Education free here (no tuition fees), but also the Government (i.e., the taxpayer) would pay you to go to university, in the form of a grant. The catch was that the entry requirements were very very high: a far smaller percentage of the population could pursue their education compared to most other developed countries. Mrs. Thatcher decided to open up tertiary education to a broader base. The increased costs involved in this have meant that ever since, and this includes her Labour successors, there have been cutbacks in the grants system. I'm not sure if the government still pays your tuition fees but the actual grants have been cut back to the bone and supplemented with a student loan scheme.


Very good point. A free higher education system doesn't necessarily mean greater social mobility, for the simple reason that the government doesn't want to pay an insane amount. It's screen out the smartest. The middle tier student may get left by the wayside.

Perhaps a system where the government pays less, but private banks loan out more allows for greater social mobility.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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Feb 2001
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Blast! I had hoped (foolishly) that we would have a reprieve of at least a month after Kid's "part 2" thread was killed through sheer apathy

Luckily, Kid hasn't shown up yet.

Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Portland, OR
Aug 2001
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Boris, Che, Kid... who else is in the Apolyton Communist Party?


Goddamn you people, I am not now, nor have I ever been a Communist. What the hell is wrong with you numbskulls?

Gays = materialistic != Communism.

Duh.

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May 1999
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Blast! I had hoped (foolishly) that we would have a reprieve of at least a month after Kid's "part 2" thread was killed through sheer apathy

Luckily, Kid hasn't shown up yet.


He will soon

 
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