04-01-2001 04:18									#1
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Hi,

I must have written this like 30 times now, but the truth is that, after a 6-month sleeping time, the Spanish Civ Site has returned.

It's a sad but logical fact that Civ2 is slowly dying out. 5 years is probably too much time for a computer game. Anyway, in an attempt to attract more people to the Civ2 world, I've decided to broaden the scope of my site.

From now on, the bestonet section will host not only those scens that I cherish the most but also all those that you Apolytoners enjoy. So please let me know which scens that I am currently mising should be in the site. Do it here or by e-mail. Thnx.

(Self-nominations of course welcome)


PS. WarVoid, mon ami, it was not my intention to bother/mock you in any way with my thread about your Arabic site. Actually its mere existence flatters me to the extent of permanent "red-cheekness". I'd be very happy if you wished to put in your site my Arabic scenarios (Al-Andalus and Granada). I know my namesake Jesús M. would also be glad to see his Alpujarras scen up there. You've got an excellent idea, don't let it die!


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[This message has been edited by Jay Bee (edited January 03, 2001).]

	04-01-2001 04:36									#2
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I'm not being pompous or rude, but I made the scenario Gettysburg, and only one person played it, and loved it, and no one else tried it out.

I urge others to at least try it out. I, personally, wouldn't call it a BEST on the net, but its still pretty fun.


If you're War of Cuba is not already there, Jay Bee, then I nominate that.

I nominate Roman Riots.

	04-01-2001 04:42									#3
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More people played your scenario then just one Polaris, I just didn't enjoy it that much. I'll admit it was fun for awhile, but it did not have the depth to keep me hooked. I may have to give it another run through now though .

	04-01-2001 04:59									#4
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Thanks for your swift reply, George. Where can I find Gettysburg?

My own scens do not count, they have their very own section on the site

	04-01-2001 18:20									#5
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I nominate "Darius the Great version 2.2" and "Mughals" as my very own scens, and also "Antigonos" by Prometeus and "Imperium Romanum" by Bernd Brosing when it is out.

	04-01-2001 19:01									#6
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... and Shaibani? I enjoyed that one very very much!


PS. What ever happened to our "joint" project? Hope you remember what I'm talking about I volunteer to do the map as soon as I get a child-free evening

	05-01-2001 10:21									#7
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My god, I seem to forget so many things recently
I didn't even remember Shaibani the moment I wrote that!
Of course, Shaibani is IMHO one of my favourites!

quote: PS. What ever happened to our "joint" project? Hope you remember what I'm talking about I volunteer to do the map as soon as I get a child-free evening

	05-01-2001 00:27									#8
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Thanx, Stefan, for your nomination... Jay Bee, I think you must add Mark Eklund newest scenario too, "Karl XII" - currently on SLeague review section... - and Stefan's "Artaxerxes".

PS River War made by Allard Hofeld is a cool scen, too...

Of course, if I'll have more time ( after "A-she-na" scenario failure, my new Chan Kuo scen has really take me the hand: it started as a simple restyling, and it's ending up as a brand-new scenario: new map, opponents, rules, terrains, units, chronology, goals... hope to finish it soon!!! ) - I'll post more names here.
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	05-01-2001 00:38									#9
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Any chance you'll be accepting Mac scenarios? If you're willing to post them, I have several Mac scenarios I've built that I'd be willing to submit. (And if anyone wants to figure out how the heck you convert a Mac scenario to a PC scenario, I'd love to hear it!)

	05-01-2001 03:48									#10
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I just now noticed my site is down at Modern Empire for some reason. I'll try to get it to you sooner or later, Jay Bee.

Yeah, and Bernd Brosing's Cross & Cresent (sp?) scenario as well.

	05-01-2001 05:12									#11
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I'll nominate Harlan Tompsons WW2: Pacific Theatre scenario.
The latest version of Second Front by Captain Nemo would also be great

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	05-01-2001 06:12									#12
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Oh my.... what have I done???? The Spanish site is now going to be replete of those pestering WW2 scenarios!!!! Mr Temba please help me out!!!

Now seriously, thanks all for your suggestions. All the scenarios you suggested here will soon be on the site.

It's true that WW2 scens are not my cup of tea but those cited by Case plus of course Red Front and WW2 in China are true masterpieces which should have been in the site long ago.

Prom: Artaxerxes is already in. The other suggestions are quite good! I am still expecting an Almogavers scenario from you

Echopapa: I hate to tell you this but for now I do not contemplate the addition of Mac scenarios to my site. I'd suggest you to submit them to the Apolyton Civ2 Mac section.

	05-01-2001 06:34									#14
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Oh, and feel free to host any of the ArabCiv scenarios on your site if you want to.

New England Civil War (currently hosted at SLeague) is probably my best work next to Heavy Metal.

I also did "Puerto Rico Civil Guerra". A Puerto Rican civil war scenario I did for a few Spanglish friends of mine. If you'd like to host that i'd be honoured and happy to send it to you.

Do you have an email address for submittals?

	05-01-2001 06:58									#15
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Glad to see you have gotten a good sense of humor. Cos you never replied to that thread I thought you were mad at me.

And, speaking about good sense of humor that Puerto Rico Guerra Civil scen sounds like fun. I assume it's pure fantasy which regrettably puts it out of the scope of the Spanish Site but still I'd like to take a look at it.

I understand about your space problems in GeoCities. I walked that road before joining Apolyton. There is a way to get around that, you know?

Also, you can put a link to my files. Some people do this w/o asking and I hate it but this case is different because it's me who is offering it to you.

My e-mail is spanish@apolyton.net(unlimited account size).

	05-01-2001 11:12									#16
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sorry Jay Bee, i should have checked the list better... An almogaveres scenario? I have a lot of projects working, and time is tirant... maybe .

	05-01-2001 23:33									#17
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Well, if you are not such a fan of WW2 scenarios why not take a look at my Byzantine Scenario I made a while back? Self-promotion isn't really my thing but what the heck!

It's called "Death and Resurrection of an Empire" or for short just "Daroae". Can be found on my website and should alsp be somewhere in Apolyton Database.

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	05-01-2001 23:57									#18
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Civ 2 dying out? With you fellas making these great scenarios it won't.

There are many great scenarios. I am in the process of playing the best ones.

Currently, I am playing Paul Cullivan's "Ancient Empires". I am a real ancient history fan, and this scenario is wonderful! The music, sound effects and graphics are top notch. The sound of a legion attacking the enemy is terrific. The tech tree makes you feel like you are progressing through ancient research. This is one of my all-time favourite scenarios. It just has that well-designed feel about it.

If you haven't played it yet, you don't know what you're missing.

I hope Paul designs more scenarios like this one

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	06-01-2001 00:08									#19
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Yes, Hendrik´s DAROAE is very good!

George and Stefan, thanks for the nominations.

And I also hope that civ2 doesn´t die out so soon...

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	06-01-2001 01:01									#20
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I don't think Civ2 will die out if we just keep it alive. Even if at the end we're just 20 old guys and people ask "you actually lived in the age of Clinton??"
-heck! If it's still fun to us, who cares?

	06-01-2001 06:41									#21
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Jay, yes, I know how to get around the Geocities thing.

I just sent you the Puerto Rico scen to the address you provided. Hope you like it.

Yes, it's sort of fiction, Clinton REALLY IS an ass, so if he remained president maybe we finally would get sick of his crap and secede.

	06-01-2001 07:48									#22
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He, he, do not get mad at me, but I liked Clinton...
have you ever heard the song "Que bonita bandera"?

Tanslated into English it says more or less: "what a beautiful flag is the flag of Puerto Rico. But it would be much more beautiful if the Yankee flag wasn't so similar"

I have heard Mr Ricky Martin himself singing it on TV (although he was doing it only for fun, no political intentions intended).

That song could fit excellently well in your scenario. Perhaps any of your friends can provide you with it.

	06-01-2001 19:22									#23
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Napster.

I liked Clinton too.

	06-01-2001 21:01									#24
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Arghhh! The infamous DP!!
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	06-01-2001 21:07									#25
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JB: Since Leonidas was nice enough to praise them first, perhaps a couple of Ancient Empires scenarios may be worthy of inclusion in your expanded folder!

Here's something else you might consider. Why not increase your archive by linking it to the Silver Fleece winners? For example, ask each winner to name the best scenario he's created (and maybe even WHY he thinks this), and then post those. That way your new archive won't be just one more, "me too" random grouping of scenarios.

Leonidas: Out of curiosity, are you playing "End of the Bronze Age" or "Seeds of Greatness"?

	07-01-2001 10:01									#26
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Kull: I'm playing "End of the Bronze Age". I'm playing as Egypt, and I have already whipped those nasty Assyrians and have taken out the whimpy Hittites. I'm in the process of invading the Greek mainland now. (I'm playing past the game's scenario time limit - can't get enough of this scenario).

I hope you make more scenarios like this one. You obviously have a real love for your subject matter and it shows.

How about the Peloponnesian Wars or the Greek/Persian Wars next time?

I especially liked the progession in armour/weapon research, ie: progress form Chariot I through to Chariot IV. The graphics for each of these progressive stages were very nice. For each added level, an extra horse was added. When those Chariot IVs, with those four horses start to ride across the desert landscape, they are truly something to behold.

The same goes for the other weapon progressions, especially the legions. Those legion IVs with the banner and gold are beautiful.

Do you have anything else planned for the near future?

I also wanted to add that I will be playing many of the scenarios that have been designed by you other scenario designers; I am looking forward to playing all the best ones. I am especialy looking forward to playing Stefan Hartel's scenarios, who obviously love's ancient history as well



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	08-01-2001 02:41									#28
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Stefan: Thanks for the recommendations. I was going to ask you which scenarios were your favourites. I note that I already have them, and will be playing them very soon. I'm looking forward to it

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	08-01-2001 03:08									#29
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I nominate:
(Sorry if they are already in.
They are good, they should be...):
All my future scenarios
(somebody must remember about me)
River War by A.Höfelt
Timur by M.Eklund
Mughals by S.Haertel
Daroe by M.Köster
Orbis Terrae by J.Vermeiren
And perhaps Imperium Romanum by B.Brosing.
I ahevn't played it all through, not minding
that I'm playing old version; but so far, very nice.
And of course, all my future scenarios
(somebody must remember about me)

	08-01-2001 03:50									#30
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In my infinite humbleness I nominate Fictional Americas and urge everyone to playtest Imperial Ambition.

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