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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
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ok dr. conservatron... your rightwing spin array seems to be working in full effect.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by Ned
This is why Kennedy opposes vouchers. The middly class white kids in Boston all go to private schools. The black kids all go to public schools. Vouchers would allow real desegregation by allowing the black kids to go to private school as well. The white kids would then have no place to flee and separate but equal would "finally" die.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/1...g.ap/index.html |
My daughter goes to a private school. Cost, which is pretty low by San Diego standards for schools of similar academic level, is around 15 grand a year. And they own the school buildings and land outright, as a result of bequests in past decades, so very little capital cost. The largest proposed voucher I've seen in California was $5,200 per year, so that still would leave about ten grand a year after taxes that the average peasant would have to scrape up. My son isn't old enough to be in school, but if he was, then two kids would be a shortfall of twenty grand a year of after tax "disposable" income to be spent on two kids' private school tuitions.
I have yet to see a private school in the US worth a **** (and not heavily subsidized by someone) that charges anything close to the low level of any voucher program that I've seen. So sorry to burst your bubble, but private schools are and will remain generally restricted to those with economic privilege, or those few given full or at least major scholarships.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by Theben
Well, MtG, supposedly some religious schools have annual tuition costs between $2500-$7500, which is of course the point of vouchers in the 1st place. |
Sure. That's why I mentioned "subsidies" - if you have no capital costs for facilities (which are fixed, and suck up a huge percentage of public school funds), and if you have some outside organization or organizations supporting operations by one way or another, you can have tuition at whatever point you want.
The funny thing to me about vouchers is that every scheme allows one taxpayer to appropriate and decide how to spend another taxpayer's money. My business taxes in California go into education as well, despite my business not having kids. The average family in California with two school age kids pays an aggregate total in sales, property and state income taxes (all of which cover a lot more services, fraud, waste and general nonsense than just education) that is less by a good amount than the public funds allocation for the two school age kids.
I have no problem giving parents voucher's equivalent to their own tax contributions to their kids education, and they can spend that on nose candy and homeschooling, or the Aryan Jugend Academy, or the Church of God Hates Liberal Traitors School of Creation Science for all I care. It's when they start spending *my* tax money that I care.
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by Spec
15 grand?!?! Are your schools on the stock exchange or what?!
Man.....Up here in Canada it costs 5 grand a year for the best schools outhere....
You guys are getting ripped off, imo.
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No, it's a non-profit. They pay teachers decently, have up to date technology, labs, etc. and have a pretty low density of students for the campus size, amount of staff, etc. Add to that a lot of field trips and field work, a decent theater, gym, music and arts programs, and a host of things generally lacking in public schools here.
Not to mention that they're fairly good about the whole university connection thing - my daughter is in 11th grade, still has her senior year, and has five offer letters for full academic scholarships, and she's being recruited and talking to several other unis all over the US.
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Skywise
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Samara's best friend
Jan 2002
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
They pay teachers decently, have up to date technology, labs, etc. and have a pretty low density of students for the campus size, amount of staff, etc. Add to that a lot of field trips and field work, a decent theater, gym, music and arts programs, and a host of things generally lacking in public schools here.
Not to mention that they're fairly good about the whole university connection thing - my daughter is in 11th grade, still has her senior year, and has five offer letters for full academic scholarships, and she's being recruited and talking to several other unis all over the US. |
Ummmmmm, same here. Only difference is that we pay only 5 grand for top schools. Oh and that classes have 27 to 35 students per class. And schools are not non-profit here, they are private organisations with fierce competition between eachother.
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27-11-2003 13:08
Sure Ned 
But I don't understand this issue. In Norway, you can't forbid anyone to go to a private school(AFAIK. It's like that in my school. Christian, but everybody are welcome) as long as they pay, and in public schools you don't have to pay anything.
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