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Thorn is offline Thorn
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I was fired from my job for allegedly being gay. Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

My job is fine, they compliment me on my work. Then the brother of the assistant manager with him present is in the back trying to guess who is gay or not in our store. They both are military types that obsess about that. His brother (they both work there) asks me if I like to flirt with girls I told them no. Within 30 minutes rumors are being reported to me that I'm a terrible worker from another coworker that won't tell me who started it. I go to ask the assistant manager what these rumors are about and he agrees with them and starts *****ing about my work saying that I could have done something while I was coming to talk to him. 3 minutes later he asks me to clock out and I'm no longer on the schedule.


Hell I didn't even say I was gay, I just said I didn't like to flirt with girls. And it is directly against this companies policy to discriminate against people's sexual orientation.

I won't say who my employer is until I've explored legal options and implications...

This is total BS!!!

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Not to mention illegal in many places.

Regardless if you are or not, sue 'em. And get the ACLU involved out of spite.

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Tell us who it is! Otherwise doubts that your declaration is true will follow.

Dont be a pansy ass, stand up for your self!

Tell and you shall be free!!

Spec.

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Aren't you? I seem to remember in one of your insane rants that you said that. It's so hard to keep track of them EvC.

Anyway, best of luck on the suit though.

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Depending on where you live, you have a wrongful termination suit and a civil rights discrimination case.

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Hell I didn't even say I was gay, I just said I didn't like to flirt with girls


Are you ?


Spec.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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Aren't you? I seem to remember in one of your insane rants that you said that. It's so hard to keep track of them EvC.


That's not the point, they never should have asked such a question it was entirely inappropriate, and certainly not fired me because of what they thought my answer meant.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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Are you ?


Spec.


Yes I am, and my BF was the one who got me the job there (he works there), and so far they know we are just friends, if he gets fired he can't pay his bills. So I'm trying not to complicate things.

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Remember Thorn, the leprechaun tells you to burn things. Do it!

I've had my fill of nasty management staff. Do you have to be particularly unpleasant and deceiptful to get such positions?

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If it is against the company's policy, then my suggestion is to go to their boss, and their bosses boss and explain the situation. You might not want to, and it likely won't come to anything, but you do want to have your bases covered by going through proper channels before you go to court and they try to paint you a psychologically-unstable, lawsuit-happy fool who bilks poor companies.

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Remember Thorn, the leprechaun tells you to burn things. Do it!

I've had my fill of nasty management staff. Do you have to be particularly unpleasant and deceiptful to get such positions?


Naw, you just have to apply. Sounds like these two bozos have applied their own particular brand of nepotism to Peter Principle both of them as high as their "talents" can take them.

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No, it definitely seems to require a special kind of person, who is willing to f**k whoever necessary to get where they are. And be especially unpleasant.

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Just as there are many types of Leftists, Rightists, Englishmen, Americans, etc., all with their own tastes, strengths, and foibles so are there as many types of managers. Don't paint them all one color with your brush, OK?

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Depending on where you live, you have a wrongful termination suit and a civil rights discrimination case.


Why does a civil rights suit depend upon where one lives. Civil rights laws are almost always national laws.

Even so, is it now a violation of the civil rights laws to discriminate against gays?

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I don't think he can file under the Civil Rights Act, but if it is the company's explicit policy not to discriminate out of sexual orientation, then he does have an arguable case.

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Find out where they live and burn their houses down...

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Some cities and some states ban discrimination based on sexual orientation. Therefore he may be able to sue for violation of his civil rights under local laws.

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I was going to say that too, but then I noticed his location field and decided to save my breath.

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Yeah.

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Sorry to hear that. That is bad. I am glad I never worked for a place like that. People should mind their own bussiness and not talk behind people's backs.
From your story though, maybe they supected that you were gay for a while and then the stuff about how you do bad work was started after that so that they could fire you and have an excuse. I doubt this all happened with in one day, but was building for some time.

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Just as there are many types of Leftists, Rightists, Englishmen, Americans, etc., all with their own tastes, strengths, and foibles so are there as many types of managers. Don't paint them all one color with your brush, OK?


I've never seen one who doesn't wield power like a blunt instrument.

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One of them is moving to california so I've been thinking about sicking Giancarlo (aka Fez) on them... heh heh.

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Sometimes it needs to be wielded as a blunt instrument. And I'm one of the good ones, a manager who has been told by many people twice my age and four times my experience that I am the best boss they've had, one whose employees decided to throw my wife a baby shower. However, you really can't be a perpetually nice guy and lead people at the same time.

Now in regards to your situation it sounds a bit like Thorn's here (in the fact that the firing was arbitrary), but I didn't really bother to comment on it because I know Jack (or John ) about English employment law.

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I've never seen one who doesn't wield power like a blunt instrument.


You haven't worked for many.

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Am I the only one who finds the timing strange? We all know Thorn's an atho, and this right after PH's wrongful term?

But if it's genuine, sic 'em. Make sure you talk to the employees and get written versions of their observations (and write yours down so you don't lose memory of exactly what was said and occurred ) Also request in writing why you were fired, signed by at least one manager. Talk to your local EEOC lawyers and see what they say. If what you say is true, you should be able to get a decent settlement. Even in North Carolina.

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wtf are u talking about theban NC is one of the most liberal southern states. Anyway seems your whole workplace is againest you so i doubt you can punish any of them

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Thought you would appreciate that.

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NC is one of the most liberal southern states.


Isn't that somewhat like saying "Congo is one of Central Africa's most prosperous nations"?

 
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