07-12-2003 01:36									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi --- Which aspects of Bush most appealed to you, when he first got elected?

1) The deeds of his father and the ideology he represented
2) The dullness of Gore

	07-12-2003 01:39									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie 2) The dullness of Gore

You should have remembered the old chinese curse 'may you live in interesting times"

	07-12-2003 02:02									#63
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quote: Say what you want about Bush and his team, but you must admit that Karl Rove is a political genius.

I agree (and it isn't contingent on the short memory of the average person). But on the other hand, this political stunt cost us some money. Maybe only a couple hundred million, but still...

	07-12-2003 03:32									#64
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Good to see Shrub acting responisbly for a change.

quote: Say what you want about Bush and his team, but you must admit that Karl Rove is a political genius.

Dude, you can't be serious. This whole issue has got to be one of the biggest political blunders Shrub has done in his presidency. First, he enacts steel tariffs early into his administration, pissing off the principled anti-protectionists in the Republican Party. In addition, it causes a fundamental rift between the US and its European allies when their support is really needed. Now, norrowly averting a trade war, he's repealed these tariffs, seriously pissing off steel workers in the up-for-grab steel industry states. So, he's alienated free traders in the right, steel workers, and the rest of the world. Good job, Rove.

	07-12-2003 04:40									#65
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT About 80 years ago, at 12, my mother entered the work market, and she was likely paid in the same range. The countries doing that now will probably need less time to increase the salaries to decent levels. It is not reasonnable to forbid that kind of work without offering to the families concerned an equivalent income, because they need it.

My PoV exactly.

They may not be making near what we make, but they're making a lot better than they otherwise would.