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Uncle Thade
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Aug 2001
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by snuggs
Too many of you seem to want Civ2 or 3 with extra baubles / refinements and that's it. I think it's time to start from the ground up, make a game that's as radical as Civ 1 was in its day. One that feels like history unfolding and not an egg-and-spoon race. |
I couldn't agree more. Let's hit this game right, 3D landscapes encompassing whole worlds and a game far more robust than AOE, RON, CIV 3, MOO3, but including a lot of those games features. With plenty of unique features for each CIV, no hack and slash, with sensible Tech Tree's, a plethora of Units, Wonders, Building Improvements, Terrain etc. In depth diplomacy and more powerful governmental models. I could go on. Sorry.
With the power of a lot of machines today, as opposed to when Civ was released, I think we could agree we need a beefy CIV4 that will be the pinnacle of the Civ series so far.
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lethe
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quote:
Originally posted by snuggs
Too many of you seem to want Civ2 or 3 with extra baubles / refinements and that's it. I think it's time to start from the ground up, make a game that's as radical as Civ 1 was in its day. One that feels like history unfolding and not an egg-and-spoon race. I'm one of those that likes Civ 3, but whoever it was who described the whole franchise as feeling like 'Space Invaders' now has it right. |
No getting around that after a few plays you start to get the idea, and after two weeks on these forums you know 90% of the game mechanics.
Even with the original I wasn't wow'ed for very long, though I stayed hooked for quite a while.
I hope they don't burn all their energies on stuff that will blow your mind the first time, but become incredibly tedious by the third. Civ is the franchise for those of us who like to spend a few thousand hours on a game.
Ps. Going back to college was the best thing ever for my civ schedule!
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vee4473
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New Jersey
Feb 2000
time: 00:32
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Originally posted by Uncle Thade
I couldn't agree more. Let's hit this game right, 3D landscapes encompassing whole worlds and a game far more robust than AOE, RON, CIV 3, MOO3, but including a lot of those games features. With plenty of unique features for each CIV, no hack and slash, with sensible Tech Tree's, a plethora of Units, Wonders, Building Improvements, Terrain etc. In depth diplomacy and more powerful governmental models. I could go on. Sorry.
With the power of a lot of machines today, as opposed to when Civ was released, I think we could agree we need a beefy CIV4 that will be the pinnacle of the Civ series so far.
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I go back to my warning of "be careful what you ask for"...
populous 3. decent game, but not populous. A ground up revision would not be civ, but a new game entirely. And that's great, just make it a new game and don't call it civ4.
As far as the power of machines is concerned, civ games have always been more intensive in the cpu calculation department, not the graphic department.
And as it is, civ3 WILL grind to a halt on the fastest consumer PC on the biggest map with many civs involved.
Graphically, consumer PC's can handle INTENSE amount of data, but when it comes to the computations needed to calculate everything involved in a turn with civ, no PC is there yet.
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Uncle Thade
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Vancouver
Aug 2001
time: 21:32
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Originally posted by vee4473
I go back to my warning of "be careful what you ask for"...
populous 3. decent game, but not populous. A ground up revision would not be civ, but a new game entirely. And that's great, just make it a new game and don't call it civ4.
As far as the power of machines is concerned, civ games have always been more intensive in the cpu calculation department, not the graphic department.
And as it is, civ3 WILL grind to a halt on the fastest consumer PC on the biggest map with many civs involved.
Graphically, consumer PC's can handle INTENSE amount of data, but when it comes to the computations needed to calculate everything involved in a turn with civ, no PC is there yet. |
Let me iterate something first; Given the release time between games, (CIV II to CIV III)64 bit comps will be more common, RAM huge and 3d cards running at a GB or more, I think by the time Civ 4 is released most consumers will be hedging on 64 bit and their old p4 extreme's and AMD FX 51's will be a 1 bit post mark in history.
First Populus was stretching itself... it was hardee har har when I got it. I laughed.
My Comp never slows on civ3 with 16 civs. I have it configured at the fastest rates and nary a prob, no slow down's here. (not the typical PC, self built and config'd)
Can't wait to see how ATI buries nVidia with GB cards and where as real time data can be configured for games... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! I love hardware and CIV!
I think Civ 4 will encompass worlds and be far more than we think. If Firaxis goes the distance!!!
BTW where is Alpha Centuari 2?
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Ulyaoth
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What I really want is a Alpha Centauri 2, too bad it'll probably never happen.
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SSBLoveU
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I did a search for CivIV, and all I could find were civics sites.
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mr Rura
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Slubice
Aug 2003
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by Ulyaoth
What I really want is a Alpha Centauri 2, too bad it'll probably never happen. |
why do you think so? if they end working on Colonization 2 nad/or Civilization IV, I'm sure they will start to make SMAC2.
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SSBLoveU
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Hmm . . . the magic way they trade. My pirate blood boils.
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BiggJase
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Great, after paying for Civ 3 and its expansion packs now they want me to buy another version.
If they do release Civ 4 it better have EVERYTHING that Civ 3 and its expansions have and more otherwise what would be the point in buying it. Things like having all thirty-one nations in the game at first release and not starting off with sixteen and then adding seven or eight with an expansion.
I've already spent £70 on Civ 3 I don't want to spend another £70 on the same game with better graphics.
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