07-12-2003 16:39									#1
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Kansas St Wildcats demolished Oklahoma 35-7 !!! YEAH WILDCATS!!!

But now what?

Oklahoma, USC and LSU all have legitimate claims to not only spots in the championship game at the Sugar Bowl, but the #1 ranking in the country. Oklahoma, the #1 team (and undefeated) in the nation before Saturday's Big 12 championship against Kansas St., could actually lose it's #1 ranking AND a spot in the Sugar Bowl. LSU's only loss was to Florida and USC's only loss came in triple overtime against California.

So who is #1 and who deserves to be in the Sugar Bowl?

	07-12-2003 16:44									#2
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Bah! The ranking system in college football is totally ****ed up.

	07-12-2003 16:56									#3
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That's why we have a poll here

	07-12-2003 18:17									#4
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Who cares? None of these teams deserves to be the national champion.

	07-12-2003 19:54									#5
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oklahoma is still the best...

	07-12-2003 20:42									#6
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Another year... and another screwed up college championship. The BCS has to go. It just doesn't work.

	07-12-2003 20:49									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Who cares? None of these teams deserves to be the national champion.

Oh yeah, these teams haven't beaten anybody, have no players with talent, and are a disgrace to college football.

Baylor by far is the team that deserves to be the national champion.

/sarcasm.

I still think Oklahoma is the best team, IF they show up and play to their potentional. However, they didn't win their conference so even though their my alma mater I don't think they necessary have a right to go to the national championship.

LSU and USC are probably the most deserving contenters.

	07-12-2003 21:04									#8
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USC will probably be the number one team in both polls... And It's also possible that they won't even get invited to the championship game.

Another example of why the BCS sucks.

	07-12-2003 21:16									#9
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Well, no argument from me on that front. They have a month off the least they can do is devote 1 week to some playoff system, hell, even if all they did was take the top 4 teams. Would come in handy in years like this, but who would be the 4th team? Michigan, Texas, Ohio St or...no...can't be... KANSAS ST?

Hmm, just saw a scroll on ESPN

1) USC
2) LSU
3) Oklahoma

MAN! That has to hurt those Sooners...

	07-12-2003 22:18									#10
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That's what they get for being TOTALLY BLOWN out in the Big 12 Championship game. They looked awful. If you lose a game like that early in the season... it's ok. But you don't do it on the last weekend.

	07-12-2003 22:45									#11
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True, but the BCS was designed in part to remove such biases as to timing of losses.

	07-12-2003 22:51									#12
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Meanwhile on the weather front, this is the second sunday in December I could be out golfing. Not nearly as nice as last sunday, a bit chilly and windy, but I could be out there if I wanted with my new used driver - 7 degree loft Bazooka with extra stiff shaft! Can't wait to use that baby!

	07-12-2003 23:22									#13
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hey, no bad mouthing BAYLOR

	07-12-2003 23:24									#14
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our attitude to playing OU:

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	08-12-2003 00:46									#15
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The real championship game will be USC v. Michigan. I don't recognize the BCS. The AP poll should be the one that we go by, as it has always been...

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quote: Originally posted by Kaak our attitude to playing OU:

Congratulations on achieving your goals!

quote: Originally posted by DanS The real championship game will be USC v. Michigan. I don't recognize the BCS. The AP poll should be the one that we go by, as it has always been...

That's okay, the BCS doesn't recognize you either.

AP? That east coast biased poll? That's the reason they had to come up with an alternative in the first place.

Who gives a crap if you play, just suck up to some sports writers and bribe your way to number one!

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Well, K-State knocked my Longhorns out of the BCS picture. In any case, it was almost worth it watching the sullen faces of the dirtburglers at the end of the game

Good luck in whatever bowl you guys end up in! And yes, the BCS is f*cked up.

I hope Texas ends up playing in the Alamo bowl in my hometown of San Antonio.. then I might actually have the motivation to attend my 1st football game since I was 2 years old.

	08-12-2003 01:49									#18
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I've decided to support my team in my avatar. I only display stuff if they are losing, requires left effort on my part that way.

	08-12-2003 02:24									#19
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The AP poll isn't bound by the BCS formula, so USC is still in the hunt for the title, as this article points out...

http://usctrojans.ocsn.com/sports/m.../120703aaa.html

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LSU has beaten four teams currently ranked I believe.

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USC or LSU. Oklahoma clearly is not better than K St.

	08-12-2003 04:50									#22
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The BCS isn't completely useless, before BCS LSU, USC, and Oklahoma would have all played in three separate bowl games. At least we get two of the top three teams going head to head.

GhengisFarb's Proposal to Replace the BCS:
1) Go back to the way the Bowls worked before.
2) Have a National Championship of the top two teams after all the Bowls are finished.

Maybe the winner of the National Championship could get a special plaque or something if they did a "triple crown" - that is they win their Conference Championship, their Bowl Game, and the National Championship.

Who am I kidding, it screwy, its always been screwy, and it will always be screwy until we have a playoffs. Which will never happen because the current Bowl system makes the NCAA TOO much money.

	08-12-2003 04:52									#23
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UNLV

	08-12-2003 06:38									#24
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Wow! USC get's screwed? Looks like it's LSU v Oklahoma

	08-12-2003 06:40									#25
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I don't understand. USC is ranked #1 right?

no wonder I don't follow college football.

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Yep... the BCS just proved how invalid their system is.

The number one team doesn't get a shot at the championship... that's fair...

Well... it's only worked about half the time, so it's no surprise that it didn't work this year. It's time to end this farce.

There will probably be a split champion this year, just like their used to be in the past many times.

	08-12-2003 07:09									#27
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I've thought about the possibility of a split championship and think it wouldn't be too bad. What's the problem with it?

Anyway, there's lots of ironies. The east coast establishment poll ( ) picks a West coast powerhouse as #1. And Oklahoma has one of the toughest schedules.

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Why not title this thread,

'Trojan removal.'

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quote: I've thought about the possibility of a split championship and think it wouldn't be too bad. What's the problem with it?

Normally I'm opposed to split national titles (that's why I supported the BCS in the first place), but I also wouldn't really have a problem with it this year. You have three one-loss teams who are so similar in on-field performance that is pretty much impossible to pick the best one. Only two teams can play in the title game, so you might as well let USC in on the action if they win. The other champ won't be undefeated anyway, so who really cares?

	08-12-2003 10:09									#30
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Split champion? Only if USC beats Michigan