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Sep 1999
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Mayor Files Complaint After Being Called 'Dude'

Tuesday, December 09, 2003


BAKERSFIELD, Calif. — Arvin Mayor Juan Olivares had just one request of a Kern County sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop — "Don't call me dude."

The mayor of the city of 20,000 people about 20 miles south of Bakersfield planned to file an official complaint with the sheriff's department, seeking to have the deputy fired for what he calls disrespectful behavior.

"I asked him five times, 'Please officer, don't call me dude.' I'm not a dude. I'm 41 years old, I'm a businessman, I'm a Christian and I consider myself a gentlemen," Olivares said Monday.

Olivares and Arvin City Councilwoman Carmen Acevedo were stopped by the deputy in Bakersfield on Nov. 23. Olivares, who was driving, said he was ticketed for having illegally tinted windows on his vehicle and Acevedo received a citation for having an open container of beer.

Olivares doesn't dispute the charges, but simply takes issue with being called dude.

"He was calling me dude and laughing about it," Olivares said. "I don't think Kern County needs that kind of leadership."

Both Olivares and Acevedo are due in traffic court December 17th.

Acevedo did not immediately return a telephone call seeking comment. A message left for Sgt. Chevy Garza, spokesman for the Kern County Sheriff's Department, also was not returned.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105232,00.html

MichaeltheGreat is offline MichaeltheGreat
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Actually, anyone who lives in Arvin is punished enough by life that they should be addressed in terms of sympathy.

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Better dude than chicken****er.

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"I asked him five times, 'Please officer, don't call me dude.' I'm not a dude. I'm 41 years old, I'm a businessman, I'm a Christian and I consider myself a gentlemen,"


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better dude than cucaracha...

hm, maybe not...

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Snotty bastard...

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I find it funny that here we have
A mayor on a joy ride with a councilwoman in a car with tinted windows with open liquer in the the vehicle.......and the big story is that he called him DUDE.

Hmmmmmmmm.

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rah, you conspiracy nut.

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Bakersfield What a sheithole of a town...

I once called a professor dude and he sent me an e-mail that was 10 pages long on why he found it degradding... I replied with the following message:

Dude!?

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Some people don't like being called dude. Don't call women dude. Some really despise it. Don't know why.

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I guess he didn't consider his infractions as instances of bad leadership.

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I don't like being called "Mister", I wonder if I can ppl to stop calling me that and instead call me "Academy Award Nominee"?

The A-hole needs to lighten up. It isn't like the pig was saying it in a demeaning fashion, and probably more of just a habitual thing...

Oh, did I say pig?

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I must say that if someone referred to me as dude, I would probably not even notice. I really don't understand how are why some people are so pathetically pedantic.

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rah, you conspiracy nut.


If our town mayor was caught with open liquer in a vehicle with a female that wasn't his wife, he'd be resigning the next day. DUDE.

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Some people don't like being called dude. Don't call women dude. Some really despise it. Don't know why.


Just as people use "you guys" in a generic sense even when referring to other women. I have seen women say to other women, "do you guys want to go out?". That's always a bit weird.

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I refer to some of my friends as ''Hey ladies'' to poke at them. So dude for a girl isn't so bad.

Spec.

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If our town mayor was caught with open liquer in a vehicle with a female that wasn't his wife, he'd be resigning the next day. DUDE.


If it was hizzonah damayuh they'd probably award him a medal or something...dude.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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So the guy is trying to have the officer fired for calling him dude!? It's another pathetic incident of the rich and powerful thinking it's no big deal if they step on the underclasses...

This mayor should learn the Christian Virtue of Humility.

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"Alright dude, I won't call you dude anymore, dude."

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I'm not a dude, I'm a christian!

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Apparently this guy has been getting himself into a lot of trouble recently. I googled his name to try to find his e-mail adress to tell him what I thought about him trying to get this officer fired, and it seems recently two things have been happening. One, the City's police has recently has recently sued Arvin and Juan Olivares for Breach of Contract. Two, his wife recently filed a restraining order against him.

Interesting.

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If it was hizzonah damayuh they'd probably award him a medal or something...dude.


You forgot that I don't live in the city proper but one of the uptight vanilla villages.

And yes, hizzonah would get a medal.

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That dude is all f*cked up

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I thought everyone was a "dude" in California? Or have I been watching too many surf movies?

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They are. This dude's just crazy, though.

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Alright, I called the city the phone number that I got from http://www.ss.ca.gov/executive/ca_r...ties_towns1.pdf

His e-mail adress is: mayorcityofarvin@aol.com

If you think it is unjust the idea of a man losing his job and facing the harshness of unemployment because he happened to adress one of the rich and powerful as "dude", I encourage you to e-mail him. Please do not not be rude or refer to "him" as dude yourself, as that will likely hardern his resolve to persecute this man. Instead, be courteous, and ask him to reconsider.

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Bullshit.
In all seriousness, policemen must address all citizens as Sirs or Madams (according to the preffered mode). Anything else is below job obligations. Although getting a cop fired for that is too much he can be repremented for it.

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paiktis: In the USA "dude" is not considered particularly insulting or disrespectful.


I recently sent the following e-mail:

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Dear Mr. Mayor:

The recent incident in which you filed an official complaint when an officer called you "dude", in an attempt to get the officer fired, has recently made national news. In the news report that I read you said: "Please officer, don't call me dude.' I'm not a dude. I'm 41 years old, I'm a businessman, I'm a Christian and I consider myself a gentlemen". I am writing to you as a fellow concerned Christian. I am concerned about the quality of your witness. Jesus Christ humbled himself in the ultimate way by allowing himself to beaten, stripped, and executed on the cross in order to redeem our sin. Humility is a Christian virtue, do you believe Jesus would seek to have a man fired if somebody were to call him "dude"? It is not humble and it is not Christian behavior to be vengeful and seek to have a man get in serious trouble because someone did not adress your properly. I hope and pray that you will reconsider, and that you will withdraw your complaint.

Sincerely,
(my real name)

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Nice move Shi

Ticketed for having 'illegally tinted windows'? Damn, talk about fashion police.

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paiktis: In the USA "dude" is not considered particularly insulting or disrespectful.


That's not the point Shi. He was a policeman, he was addressing a citizen, I know that at least in Greece it's in the job description of policemen to address citizens as Sirs or Madams. I think that something similar must exist in the US?

I agree that firing a cop for calling someone dude is going too far but he was obviously trying to do it for kicks or to offend while he was on duty, that's not acceptable. But, even, for whatever reason he did call him that, he was not proffessional. Again agreed about not firing him for that but he should be repremented.

 
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