10-12-2003 23:59									#91
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Theoretically maybe.
However it would be hilarious from any number of viewpoints IMO.

	11-12-2003 00:02									#92
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those evil frenchies! they were trying to profit from the war!


... wait a minute...

	11-12-2003 00:10									#93
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This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason?

Let's help these poor little Iraqis and steal their jobs. Woohoo!

	11-12-2003 00:11									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason? Let's help these poor little Iraqis and steal their jobs. Woohoo!

I sense a disturbance in the force

	11-12-2003 00:18									#95
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quote: This shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Are local contractors not good enough for some reason?

They're fine as subcontractors. Indeed, the US has been pushing for more Iraqi subcontractors versus subcontractors from other countries (including the US).

	11-12-2003 01:06									#96
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quote: Originally posted by DanS As an American taxpayer, I have no problem with excluding companies from non-participating countries from being prime contractors on our portion of the aid. It's our $19 billion, after all.

If it is, I have no problem whatsoever. However if it's Iraqi money that the US has leant to Iraq, then it is for Iraqis to decide who gets it, not Americans.

	11-12-2003 01:14									#97
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This is really rather stupid but on the up side the sums involved are small and these countries are only disallowed from recieving government contracts during reconstruction.

	11-12-2003 02:28									#98
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funny news as I think. schröder and chirac will certainly have a hard time pretending their anger about that.

why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing?

	11-12-2003 02:34									#99
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Well, it's getting some reactions: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Dec10.html

	11-12-2003 02:36									#100
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I sense a disturbance in the force

Funny, in 1997 Haliburton LOST the competative bidding and Bill Clinton gave them the contract anyways.

The plot thins...

	11-12-2003 02:42									#101
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so? have I ever said Clinton wasn't a corporate whore president?

funny how some people think hating Bush and company means I love Clinton and the Democratic party... too much chlorine in the gene pool

	11-12-2003 02:47									#102
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quote: Originally posted by Sava so? have I ever said Clinton wasn't a corporate whore president? funny how some people think hating Bush and company means I love Clinton and the Democratic party... too much chlorine in the gene pool

Actually, it was the flouride!

All U.S. presidents have to be CWPs. The country is really just one big corporation.

Did I ever accuse you of being a Clinton robot?

Funny how some people are so ready to defend non-existant attacks....

	11-12-2003 02:51									#103
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quote: Originally posted by oedo why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing?

Or Tehran
But apparently Bush didn't quite think of that

	11-12-2003 02:52									#104
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quote: Did I ever accuse you of being a Clinton robot?

indirectly

quote: Funny how some people are so ready to defend non-existant attacks....

it was implied...

	11-12-2003 02:53									#105
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar Or Tehran But apparently Bush didn't quite think of that

his daddy and reagan did... oh wait, no they sold nuclear components to Iraq... wrong evil nation that the US supported

	11-12-2003 02:55									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Sava indirectly it was implied...

wow is that nit picking...OK, Sava, i'll just tiptoe over here....mmmmkay?

	11-12-2003 02:59									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Sava his daddy and reagan did... oh wait, no they sold nuclear components to Iraq... wrong evil nation that the US supported

Sava...They weren't an evil nation, but a good, democratic nation valiantly fighting the evil terrorists of the terrroist nation of Iran

	11-12-2003 03:18									#108
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CNN is reporting Halliburton is screwing taxpayers again by charging double for gasoline... War Profiteering is treason in my world... so is overbilling the Armed Forces for gas.

Oh but we can't give those evil frenchies any contracts...

	11-12-2003 03:33									#109
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quote: Originally posted by oedo why donating water pumps to baghdad when you can sell nucelar plants to beijing?

So true. I heard, Pyongyang wants some too.

	11-12-2003 03:37									#110
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Germany rejected the list and France is examining its legitimiacy. They're going to go for it after all

Oh USA... you used to be smarter and stronger than that

	11-12-2003 03:39									#111
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What the hell was he thinking barring russia?

	11-12-2003 03:42									#112
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If the Soviet Union wanted our money, they should've sent troops to Babylonia.

	11-12-2003 03:44									#113
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The point is that Russia is still important globally, France isnt and hasent been for some time.

To add Russia and U.S. has been on PRETTY good terms for some time-even though they didnt support the war and might of sold Sadam some stuff, we should of over looked it for the sake of GOOD RELATIONS(a concept that seems foreign to this administration).

	11-12-2003 03:47									#114
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quote: Originally posted by DanS As an American taxpayer, I have no problem with excluding companies from non-participating countries from being prime contractors on our portion of the aid. It's our $19 billion, after all. The Canadians can direct their own aid dollars as they wish. If they want to exclude American companies, they are free to do so. As for France, Germany, or Russia, why any crocodile tears would be shed for them for missing out on contracts for American aid dollars is beyond me.

As an American taxpayer, I do have a problem. I want to get my money's worth. So **** all the nationalism. Give the contracts to the most capable companies, and do right by the taxpayers.

	11-12-2003 04:08									#115
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I have no wish in being complacent to this blatant corporate whoring.

What's more alarming than shutting the Euros out is that we tend not to use Iraqi contracters even when they can get the job done cheaper, and we're giving contracts to notoriously anti-union businesses.

	11-12-2003 05:11									#116
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I understand that France, Russia and Germany are promoting the reconstruction of Iraq by insisting on prompt payment of Iraq's outstanding debt to them that was incurred in major part for illegal arms sales to Saddam to kill Americans and Brits, and to torture his own people.

And posters here say something about America sucking Iraq dry when American is giving Iraq 20 billion in reconstruction aid? The outrageous hypocrisy of the axis of weasels is something to behold.

	11-12-2003 05:17									#117
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quote: Originally posted by Ned I understand that France, Russia and Germany are promoting the reconstruction of Iraq by insisting on prompt payment of Iraq's outstanding debt to them that was incurred in major part for illegal arms sales to Saddam to kill Americans and Brits, and to torture his own people. And posters here say something about America sucking Iraq dry when American is giving Iraq 20 billion in reconstruction aid? The outrageous hypocrisy of the axis of weasels is something to behold. Ned, Fox News Always Fair and Balanced

	11-12-2003 05:18									#118
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And now the Russians can tell washington to forget about anyone in Iraq having the 8 billion in debts forgiven..heck, the Russians might end up with more money thanks to this move..

	11-12-2003 05:19									#119
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Germany rejected the list and France is examining its legitimiacy. They're going to go for it after all Oh USA... you used to be smarter and stronger than that

and what can they do about it?

NOTHING

	11-12-2003 05:20									#120
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Actually, if the French find that this violates terms of the WTO, they can take the US to court.

And they can refuse to forgive any of Iraq's debt to them as well, like the Russians might.