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Kramerman
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UT, Austin - The live music capital of the world
Jun 2002 time: 23:32
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form what ive heard fomr a lot of people here is that a lot of yall want innovation, and a lot of yall dont. A lot of people have the mentality of "if it aint broke, dont fix it" and make it seem they basically want civ4 to be like civ3. But what i say is that if you wanna play civ3, play civ3. If you dont think anything is 'broke' then fine, stay with civ3. If you want just a few things here and there changed, then i suggest you advocate another expansion for civ 3. But if you want a whole new engine and interfcae and graphics and stuff, then i suggest for you civ4
IMO, civ4 should be a whole new game, probably using an entirely new engine. A lot of core elements, such as tech tree, city improvements, resources, diplomacy, etc obviously must stay (it wouldnt be a civ history game with out them), BUT, they do not have to stay in the same form that they have been in for the last C1,2, and 3.
i for one am for a departure from the past, and a radical one at that if need be.
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Jog
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I'd like a significantly new yet familiar civ4 experience and I'd also like the banana as well.
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TimeTraveler
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I honestly ended up choosing banana out of my current state of mind being somewhere between apathy and not knowing at all how much I want the differency
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pg
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the problem with civ is it's design is like 10 years or old or whatever and it shows. compared to newer strategy games(think paradox games for a good example) civ looks childish in it's simulation of history. it's still very fun but it's realism is horrible now compared to newer games. i'd really like to see it strive for more realism as long as the fun doesn't suffer.
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Brent
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I want Civ4 to be about 10 to 20 % Civ1, 15 to 20 % Civ2, 15 to 20 % Civ 3, 10 % Colonization, 3 to 10 % SMAC, 1 to 5 % CtP1, 1 to 5 % CtP2, 0 to 1 % other, and 10 to 40 % new.
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panag
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MY WORDS ARE BACKED WITH BIO-CHEMICAL WEAPONS
Oct 2000 time: 07:32
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hi ,
A significant departure. i want a new game, but i dont want it to be alien from my good 'ole civ
but there should be things , innovations , etc , .... and more realism , unit trading , more techs , food trading , etc , .... but we should also have the option to play a huge game with loads of options , techs etc , .... and a shorter more limited game , .... and way more prepared options
have a nice day 
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grap1705
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I vote "significant" because I like the Civilization concept, but found Civ3 to be a very poor successor of the serie.
Aside from the resource control concept, I have mainly bad grades to dispatch to Civ3: very poor military handling, limited scope with no vision offered of future development, poor diplomacy that gives the image of an effort without actually making it, poor economic model, some completely unrealistic concepts maintained such as the "magical railway" of "Beam me up Mr Spock" type, many oversimplified items like trading without bothering about viability of trade routes through enemy territory, etc... And not even an effort to ofer some eye candy in compensation, most having been sacrificed, such as the wonder movies, or an end sequence other than just a bunch of statistics of economic nature while all through the game you had very little macro economic control tools... Very disappointing indeed. Looked much more like a version 2.0 of Civ2 than like a new Civ3!
It seems like the Sid Meier team was sleeping while Activision released Call To Power 2, which is more satisfying in many ways...
Civ3 as it is appeared to me as a cheap game. Someone (Shogun Gunner I think) said he'd understand some features may be hard to developp because too costly or complicated. I disagree. Todays computing power allows for very complex algorithm. If the developper team cannot conceive them, then let them retire and hire me, because without being a computer analyst, I am able to develop such complex algorithms. And as for the money side, Civilization is a major item of PC gaming. If it's not worth investing money in it, then let them retire and go fishing!
As you see, my disappointment in Civ3 is deep.
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H Tower
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if you're talking Civ3 vanilla, then I might agree with you. But Conquests fixed most of my problems with the game.
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