17-12-2003 20:49									#1
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Happy holidays to everyone on Apolyton!



Enjoy good times with family and friends, and if you believe in Christ, don't forget the reason we celebrate Christmas!

	18-12-2003 02:49									#2
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quote: and if you believe in Christ, don't forget the reason we celebrate Christmas!

Victory over the Pagans?

	18-12-2003 02:51									#3
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not quite.

has something to do more with a virgin having a parasite that a deity had inserted into her finally expelled from her body in the presence of bovines.

	18-12-2003 02:54									#4
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Asher!? I thought, uh, nevermind... good to see you back

	18-12-2003 02:54									#5
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

But I was under the impression that that happened in April.

	18-12-2003 02:57									#6
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of course it's the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard. that's the miracle of it all! that it actually happened?

i remember reading about a news report they found with the dead sea scrolls, detailing how a tiny, 9-pound man was found lodged in the reproductive tract of a 14 year old virgin. after incarcerating him, they executed him 33 years later for it.

	18-12-2003 02:58									#7
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Clearly the purported "14 year old virgin" is an inbred slut.

	18-12-2003 03:11									#8
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Ok -- if you don't believe in Jesus Christ, that's fine -- but is it too hard to show some respect for those who do??

	18-12-2003 03:15									#9
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How do you show your respect for the Pagans which you've stolen their holiday from?

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sorry, mrfun.

what are you, anyway? you in for midnight mass?

	18-12-2003 03:16									#11
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Ok, first off -- pagans never celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ before he was born.

Secondly, I do appreciate some other aspects of Christmas, such as the Christmas tree tradition, and other such customs, that really have come from pagan cultures.

	18-12-2003 03:17									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed sorry, mrfun. what are you, anyway? you in for midnight mass?

I'm a Christian, but as of yet, I have not found a congregation that I can feel welcome, and where I enjoy expressing my belief/faith.

I was raised in a Catholic family.

	18-12-2003 03:21									#13
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yeah. i'm still catholic. a lot of the stuff i have no problems with, but some of it, i still haven't reconciled to myself.

haven't felt a need to find another church, though.

	18-12-2003 04:17									#14
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Well it's the Christians' holiday, at least we should be polite.

If not for JC it would be another day at work.

	18-12-2003 04:27									#15
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Mary was raped.

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And Fun, Xmas was stolen from the pagans. It is a holiday celebrating the rebirth of the sun-god and his victory over darkness.

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quote: If not for JC it would be another day at work.

	18-12-2003 04:32									#18
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara And Fun, Xmas was stolen from the pagans. It is a holiday celebrating the rebirth of the sun-god and his victory over darkness.

I don't care. Just show me whose holiday it is and I'll be polite.

I like the day off.

	18-12-2003 05:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun I'm a Christian, but as of yet, I have not found a congregation that I can feel welcome, and where I enjoy expressing my belief/faith. I was raised in a Catholic family.

Well try Episcopalian then man! Just be aware that some parishes are just a weeeee bit miffed over the recent thing going on in New Hampshire. You might want to test the waters discretely before coming completely out, lest you wind up as part of the main exhibit in a Good Friday celebration. Hey! Have you ever thought of moving to New Hampshire?

	18-12-2003 05:39									#20
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Dr Strangelove, when I was back in eastern Iowa, I did try a local Episopalian church -- but, the priest there was not very friendly -- gave me a cold shoulder for whatever reason.

So, I did not go back there to join the congregation.

	18-12-2003 05:40									#21
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara And Fun, Xmas was stolen from the pagans. It is a holiday celebrating the rebirth of the sun-god and his victory over darkness.

You know something -- the minute I express my reason for celebrating Christmas, you and Asher start blabbling about stuff that I already know, basically -- like that some of the customs we still have with Christmas, originated with pagan cultures.

	18-12-2003 05:41									#22
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You know, for a church that was founded by a serial fornicator and adulteror, as well as a king who murdered anyone who disagreed with him, they certainly have a lot of balls about talking about what is or isn't righteous.



chegitz guevara, recovering Episcopalian

	18-12-2003 05:42									#23
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun You know something -- the minute I express my reason for celebrating Christmas, you and Asher start blabbling about stuff that I already know, basically -- like that some of the customs we still have with Christmas, originated with pagan cultures.

No, not some of the customs, the whole, friggan holiday. There is nothing about Xmas that wasn't lifted from paganism, except Santa Claus. It is a pagan holiday, with a Christian veneer.

	18-12-2003 05:46									#24
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The celebration of Jesus Christ's birth was not taken from pagan cultures -- pagan cultures had their own form of celebration BEFORE Jesus Christ was ever born.

If you want to politicize the holidays, you can create another thread.

	18-12-2003 05:49									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun The celebration of Jesus Christ's birth was not taken from pagan cultures -- pagan cultures had their own form of celebration BEFORE Jesus Christ was ever born.

WRONG! You sanctimonius Iowan!

Jesus Christ is simply the Christian version of the Sun god, who is born/reborn every year on the Winter Solstace! That's only four days earlier. He dies, is reborn, and defeats darkness. Now who does that sound like?

	18-12-2003 06:29									#26
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Now who does that sound like?

Vali the Avenger?

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Merry Christmas all!

	18-12-2003 06:51									#27
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You celebrate Christmas however you want to, Chegitz.


And I will celebrate it my way.

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	18-12-2003 07:00									#28
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And a big welcome back to Asher!

With the whole 'Poly family united again, we can at last celebrate Christmas together, as a family should be

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You know, for a church that was founded by a serial fornicator and adulteror, as well as a king who murdered anyone who disagreed with him

Question from an ignorant atheist: who are you talking about?

	18-12-2003 07:06									#30
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Happy Holidays..I agree with Agathon, I get a few days off, so be better damned well celebrate!

So get to celebrating before we get you guys! It is an ORDER!!