12-05-2000 01:24									#91
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OOC: Bill, what's going on with your forums?

IC:
To 3SWE
Please answer about the trading alliance extension.
To Britain
Please see that as much of the volunteers as posible come back alive.
To World
The spaceship launched last week was sent in order to try and make fusion energy cheaper by operating in lo or no G.

	12-05-2000 02:42									#92
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ALL ADVANCES STOP INFACTED PUSHED BACK
The PAR Troops with about 1.5 Million men pushed back the Intruders. Any left behind will be taken as prisioner of war to a prision in Pyang Island 5 Miles away from North Korea. Oh and Bill screw off, my government isn't corrupt anymore. The terrorist group was found in India and was executed for Warcrimes. And the National Guard and Federal/Local/National Police have done a crackdown with crime, overthrowing all Terrorist groups. All terrorist are now in Antarctica if you want them, ready to be executed in a few minutes...

Casualities:
PAR Troops - 1,500
EE Troops - 253,500

Deployments
Army - 1 Million Men to Saudi/NRE Border
AirForce - 600,000
The Troops in Germany have pulled out, setting time bombs blowing up all infrastructure. All factories in Germany are destroyed.

Army Tanks to Saudi Border - 20,000
AirCraft to Saudi - 6,600

National Army
Army - 3.6 Million
Navy - 1 Million
AirForce - 1.1 Million
National Guard - 1 Million
Marines - 1 Million

Reserve (Army/Navy/AirForce/Marines) - 4.5 Million

Sudan Invaded
Sudan has collapsed to nearly 600,000 Men in the Army. Another 500,000 will be sent. The invasion was quick and easy.

Message to EE
This war is about 400 Years later in the World, that doesn't mean Europe is still powerful, and doesn't mean Asia is still weak. Things change, and as it turns out we are now a

SuperPower!

	12-05-2000 02:50									#93
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I CAN NO LONGER BE MOD...

PLEASE VOTE ON A NEW MOD.

Last night a lightning storm fried my pc. I've gotten it up and running again but the modem is shot. It may take a while before it's fixed. This means you need a new mod. I vote for either GeoDan or Bill.

GeoDan is my preferred choice since he knows what he's talking about and seems like a fair enough person.
Best wishes and keep playing,
WarVoid

I'll be back...
[This message has been edited by WarVoid (edited May 11, 2000).]

	12-05-2000 02:53									#94
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Geodan, if he has time. If Bill becomes mod I will have to leave.

	12-05-2000 03:12									#95
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Cease Fire Treaty Signed with European Empire
A significant peace treaty has been signed with the EE, this has played the roled in stopping the war. While bringing both sides to an advantage, this cease fire was signed in New Delhi today. Our Troops will pullout of Sudan and Yemen giving it to the EE, but they are to agree to end the war and bring peace and honor to our land and their's. Our Troops have released all Prisioners of War (demilitarized Army Troops) for the EE. Our Army will still remain at its same height, but the National Guard will shrink to 111,000. The budget used for Military purposes will be decreased to 7%. Plus we will leave 5,000 Unarmed Troops in Germany to rebuild damaged or destroyed infrastructure. Our Country will still maintain a SuperPower position.
[This message has been edited by Giancarlo (edited May 11, 2000).]

	12-05-2000 03:45									#97
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I'll take that post back, ignore it. We are a superpower though.

	12-05-2000 06:12									#98
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Thanks for the support about me being mod, everyone, but the unrealism in this thread has become far too extreme. Unless, by chance, Bill3000 leaves, I will most likely leave myself. This thread had a good premise, and and much potential, but in recent days it has essentially been ruined by everyone's (especially Bill3000's) unrealism. (I must admit that I, too, may have been a bit unrealistic ) Sorry.

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	12-05-2000 09:57									#99
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I'm gone for just one or two days and then everything changes, especially the realism content.

Scott F, your post on May 10, 2000 15:25, to discover a technology is one thing, but to research it, develop it, test it, and use it effectively in one post is highly unrealistic.

Bill (and most unrealistic post)-

quote: The EE is supporting a Khanite terrorist group to overthrow the corrupted Asian Government. They have a very good plan in doing it.

If I remember correctly, this is against thread rules.

quote: Meanwhile, riots have been formed in the Pan Asian Republic. Screaming, "We want our boys home" and "don't attack Arabia" are common. The riots are becoming more and more serioius.

You aren't allowed to control another country's actions.

quote: Britan annexxed into the European Empire! British Manchiria annexed into the European Empire. With the British threat out, the 800,000 troops in Britan has split:

Are you talking about Manchuria? Manchuria is near China, and any attempt to annex it wuld be no doubt an act of war (and unrealistic). Also, the British don't own Manchuria.

quote: Using Space Dropper technology, a technology invented in 2200, the 400,000 men has went to South Africa. Completly caught by suprise, the GP is crippeled by the European Plunderers.

Again, you can't control another country's actions and events. And how can the men just "appear" in South Africa in one post, going across thousands of miles of land or ocean without being noticed?

quote: The other 400,000 were just the men needed to free the German/GP front. The troops, starved and outnumbered, surrendered to the EE and GG.

And again, you can't control another country's actions... especially during a war. You can't just say, "Troops of Nation B surrender. Nation A wins," which is what you did.

Quote from Scott F:

quote: Plus, I find the idea of the sheer distance you are transporting men to fight absurd, even in 2400. You must ship food, equipment, and munitions for each of you soldiers all the way from Africa. That is rather difficult, if not impossible, for the most powerful and modern nations on earth, let alone Africa.

And vice versa I should say, for the EE.

Quote again from Scott F:

quote: Bill's conquests seem absurd when you first look at them, but remember that his conquests are mostly desert.

Even desert doesn't excuse his unrealism in his conquests.

Giancarlo:

quote: Casualities: PAR Troops - 1,500 EE Troops - 253,500

Highly unrealistic, to say the least.

quote: Deployments Army - 1 Million Men to Saudi/NRE Border AirForce - 600,000 The Troops in Germany have pulled out, setting time bombs blowing up all infrastructure. All factories in Germany are destroyed.

What I have said to Bill also applies here, especially "All factories in Germany are destroyed."

quote: Sudan Invaded Sudan has collapsed to nearly 600,000 Men in the Army. Another 500,000 will be sent. The invasion was quick and easy.

Unrealistic since in order to get to Sudan you have to pass throught the New Roman Empire. Also, you can't conquer entire areas in just one post.

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GeoDan, do what has been done when Bill was too unrealistic before: Ignore him. Also, I hope you stay and I still would like voting for you mod.

It is not a right, it is a privilege.

	12-05-2000 10:02									#100
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eh... I'll wait a few days and see what happens in this thread, then I'll decide whether to stay or quit.
Meanwhile, everyone have a look in my thread about a possible Galactic Colonization story thread! It needs more participants!

-GeoDanny

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AKA GeoDude

	12-05-2000 17:00									#101
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OOC: I vote for GeoDan for mod.

Peace declared with the treaty of New Delhi! Victory in Europe! The European Empire hails its first great victory! The European Empire has almost reached it's former glory!

Troops in South Africa are withedrawing and the GP shall live free from EE influence. We are glad that our German allies can now live in peace.

This war will be eventually be called the Euro-Asian War.

(The map will be updated soon)

	12-05-2000 20:36									#102
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OoC: I'd support dStryker for moderator if he wanted to be one, but because he doesn't seem to want to, Gdan.

IC: PLAN OF DIPLOMACY

Well, now I can say that we're in really deep ****. Or maybe we are not. The war between 3SWE and Europe is fading, but the relationships between them will probably remain cold for quite long. But we are allies with both of them, and we also have established healthy trade relationships with both. We could work as a diplomatic gate between those two and also get a healthy amount of integrity and money. But we'll see what the 3SWE decides to do in the Perth conference.

	13-05-2000 09:14									#103
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OOC: i'd also support dStryker for mod.

IC:
Today, president i am Nestor announced that the USS is will ing to help in peace negotiations between the 3SWE and EE /Germany.
The USS is also willing to sell high amounts of nearly everything we can produce at reduced prices in order to help rebuilding cities and other infrastructure.

Later that week, the president released further information about the Shuttle which was launched last month.

quote: If they are succesfull in their mission, the shuttle will land on the moon and establish the first permanent base there in years.

	12-05-2000 23:58									#104
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World 2400- Estados Comunistas Protestantes Unidos (that's the name of my country. hint, hint. Everyone refer to me as ECPU in diplomacy)

Government: Fundamentalist Communism.
Economy: Planned, with foreign investors.
Currency: US$ 1 = 1 Hod (Hodad)

Principal Industrial Centres:
Hodadia- ex Quito- Capital of the Empire.
Caracas
Maracaibo
Cartagena
Medellin
Bogota
Guayaquil
Lima
Callao
Arequipa
La Paz
Sucre
Santa Cruz
Georgetown

Principal Ports and Docking Areas:
Maracaibo
Cartagena
Barranquilla
Buenaventura
Guayaquil
Callao

Declaration of Military Power:

Armada ECPU:
1 Carrier
2 Battleships
3 Battle cruisers
5 Destroyers
9 Frigates
Various patrol boats
10 Submarines

Fuerzas Armadas ECPU:
250,000 Regular Infantry, divided into groups of 25,000
Raising 750,000 Fanaticos: fanatical troops, with a strict code of honour and highly trained in rugged terrain warfare and guerrilla warfare.

Fuerza Aerea ECPU:
500 Fighter Bombers armed with AA and AS and Naval missiles.

Industry and Economy:
Population: 392,000,000
GNP: $592,690.5 millions
GNP per capita: $1511.97
Unemployment: 6% = 23,520,000 people.
Literacy rate: 98%

Production:
Shipyards: 6 (six more under construction)
Munition Factories: 14 (10 more under construction)
Military Capabilities: Heavy Tanks, Plasma rifles, fighters and bombers of all kinds.
Exports: bauxite, gold, diamonds, rice, sugar, iron, aluminium, coffee, light manufactures, bananas, fish, cotton, textiles, silver, zinc, tin. (OOC: If coal and oil are still available, then these are two important ones too.)

Due to fanatism of population, utopic communism has been attained in our country. It is an open door to communists worldwide.

Research begins to make fuel out of water!
This is one of the most brilliant ideas anyone has put into practice anywhere. This is highly classiffied. It may take many years for this to be discovered, but it is worth it.

Messiah Hodad declares Panama canal of Protestant interest!
Any nation that occupies it will be demonstrating an act of hostility towards the ECPU.

Research begins on orbital bombers!
These bombers would fly as much as to the troposphere from where they will release missiles from strategic positions.

To ALL NATIONS:
We wish to sign peace treaties with your governments.
We also declare ourselves as a peaceful trading nations. But do not incite us to war.

To 3SWE:
***secret***
We wish to sign an peace and mutual diplomatic co-operation. Remember that under the terms of an alliance I may send volunteer corps. Remember these are fanatical troops which are highly valued on battlefields today...
However, these would have to be masqueraded.
Also, we are all equally threatened by Mao's Marauders. With your military help, we would declare a Holy War against them as soon as you finish your campaigns in Germany.
***end of secret***

To HsFB:
Would you like to participate in a wargame in the jungled mountains of Peru? These are a good chance to train each other's troops.
***secret***
We wish to sign an alliance with you and an economic agreement.
The South should Unite.
***end of secret***

	13-05-2000 00:23									#105
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To ECPU
we will consider about your offer, i agree with the alliance, i'll send 200,000 troops (50,000 vets, 150,000 newly recuited) to train with yours.

	13-05-2000 00:28									#106
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To HsFB:
Let the games begiin... begiin...
And we will pay you 125 million Hod's for the 5,000,000 plasma rifles

	13-05-2000 01:10									#107
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OoC:Hodad: Just one thing. Fusion engines have used Nitrogen/deuterium (Very easy to get from water) for loooonnnggg aaageeesss. Microfusion has gone even further. Maybe you should try another thing. Efficiency or something, I don't know.

	13-05-2000 17:04									#108
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OK, I'm back as mod.
That was quick wasn't it.

Now what's been goin on???

I see Bill still thinks he rules the world...

Fraggin kids...

I see Hodad has finally choosen a nation, good. But 5 million rifles? Too big a number. Remember your still a new nation. Lower that number a little bit. (Like to 3 mill)
BTW, NO SPACE WEAPONRY. I don't care if it is just satellites. This is a post-apocalyptic earth. That kind of technology hasen't been implemented yet and it makes players too powerful. Think of something else to work on. Like underground cities or terraforming the Sahara.
[This message has been edited by WarVoid (edited May 13, 2000).]

	13-05-2000 18:08									#109
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We were not completely finished with invading Arabia, but will be finshed in two days. The casualities on the me is actually 163,500, we were caught unprepared. Those figures were too early. All factories in our occupied Germany, sorry for being to damn ambigous. It won't happen again. But we are leaving troops to rebuild what we have destroyed.

Arabian Invasion Nears Mecca
Heavy Fighting has occured outside were the Arabian Army has moved many major bases to, our Army has caught them off guard but we underestimated them. They are putting up massive resistance which is piling heavy casualities on both sides. Arabia has not yet invaded all Arabia and it will take 2-3 days to be completely invaded.

Arab Army Losses - 210,000 (Expected to Rise Rapidly)
Republic Army Losses - 54,500 (Expected to Rise)

Alright, Alright Realistic Military Stats
Army - 1.2M
Navy - 220,000
AirForce - 345,000
Marines - 43,100
National Guard - 96,500 (Set to Increase to 102,100)
Current Report - Peacetime
Spending used for military - 5% (Peacetime)
[This message has been edited by Giancarlo (edited May 13, 2000).]

	14-05-2000 10:54									#111
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South Korea, Japan Surrender
Last night in Taegu, South Korea, the remaining Korean troops surrendered. The city of Taegu had been under siege for over a week, with food running low for the city. South Korea is to become an autonomous province, with the capital still located in Seoul.
Casualities:

Chinese: 47,000
Korean: 125,000

Most casualites occurred during the Shui capture of Seoul and the seige of Taegu.
Korean civilian casualites are estimated to be about 370,000. Most also occurred during the capture of Seoul and the siege of Taegu.

This morning in Tokyo, the Japanese government surrendered. Shui troops had advanced as far as the Tokyo surburbs, leaving most of the Yokohama area in ruins. However, on Hokkaido island, Japanese partisans are still fighting in the mountains near Sapporo.
Japan is also to become an autonomous province, with the capital located in Tokyo.
Casualties:

Chinese: 155,000
Japanese: 400,000

Japanese civilian casualites number over 4 million. Most occurred during the bombing of Hiroshima, the short Japanese liberation of Osaka, and the recent Shui invasion of Yokohama.
300,000 more troops have been sent to Japan to help with the Japanese occupation.
The 50,000 troops stationed on the Kunashiri and Etorofu islands, along with 50,000 troops on the Japanese mainland, have left and have invaded Sakhalin island. Little resistance was encountered and the city of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk has already fallen.
Massive celebrations have been going on following the surrender of Korea and Japan.

The tax protests have finally ended in Shanghai. Protestors have agreed for the tax to be raised to 18%, instead of the original 21%.

Chinese officials have announced the successful launching of a weather satellite into space. Solar wind had destroyed the previous satellite, resulting in sporadic and inaccurate weather reports for most of eastern China. (OOC: Does a weather satellite count as space weaponry? I wouldn't think so unless you feel threatened by a weather satellite. )

OOC: Bill, if you do do the map, spell the name right! It's Shui Dynasty, not "Shui Dhastany".

IC:

© 2400 Xinhua News Agency

	14-05-2000 18:28									#112
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Arabian Army Surrenders
AFter many skirmishes about 1-2 miles away from Mecca, the last few regiments of the Arabian Army have surrendered. Our Army will be sweeping through Arabia expecting light to moderate resistence. But we also fear that a few regiments escaped up to North Arabia where our troops have not yet reach.

Casualities:
PAR Troops - 62,500
Arabian Troops - 121,000

New Research in AirFusion Energy
Our scientists have been using the simple Oxygen Element to search for a new source of energy. We already tested some AirFusion in micro amounts, and will mass produce the stuff once our research is complete. This will provide the world with cleaner, safer and more efficent energy.

	16-05-2000 01:21									#114
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OOC: Okay, Warvoid, 2.5 million, which cuts the price in half...
I'll brush up on the efficiency of the fuel and enrich it and I hope that an orbital bomber is not a weapon of mass destruction, but if you don't allow it, I'm cool with it...

IC: Without war or internal strife, ECPU is growing...

	16-05-2000 01:23									#115
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OOC: Okay, Warvoid, 2.5 million, which cuts the price in half...
I'll brush up on the efficiency of the fuel and enrich it and I hope that an orbital bomber is not a weapon of mass destruction, but if you don't allow it, I'm cool with it...

IC: Without war or internal strife, ECPU is growing...

	16-05-2000 01:24									#116
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OOC: Okay, Warvoid, 2.5 million, which cuts the price in half...
I'll brush up on the efficiency of the fuel and enrich it and I hope that an orbital bomber is not a weapon of mass destruction, but if you don't allow it, I'm cool with it...

IC: Without war or internal strife, ECPU is growing...

	16-05-2000 06:16									#118
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OOC:
so i'm not allowed to have a scientific research station on the moon due to orbital lasers and stuff and orbital stations are allowed...

IC:
Due to the recent change in time scale, the spaceship has left earth's orbit yesterday (RT) and will arrive between tomorrow and wednesday (also RT)

To Hodad
Get some easier initials for your country.
i'm still waiting for your offer.
it's now 2,500,000 rifles, right?

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World 2400

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	25-05-2000 09:26									#119
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& everyone?