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Giancarlo is offline Giancarlo
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Bolo, try Spain, Portugal and Morocco. Not Spain, France and Portugal, it is way too large. Whoever is mod here, cut down these European Developed Nations down to 1 or 2 depending on the size with a lesser developed nation. Mao, please don't let people have 2 European Countries like Spain and France.

Jools, your nation will fall apart in a split second.

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Actually, GeoDan, how about giving Bearcat Belgium and you taking the Netherlands instead of your getting all the Low Countries.

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aarg! Mao, please stop nitpicking! As soon as I can contact Bearcat, we'll decide.

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haha, ok ok. But Italy and France seem pretty powerful, just one would be fine.

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Dan, what's your AIM or ICQ? Mine is Booma4U123, IM me so we can discuss this faster.

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Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.

Republic of Phoenicia

Need somebody to kick Jools in the ass.

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Jools, would you mind releasing those nations for WarVoid? Helll, with just Israel and Iraq you could take a nice chunk of the Mid-East.

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Umm, I thought he mean't he was just taking Israel.
If he's already claimed it then i'll take something else.

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OK, you might wanna claim something else.

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You know Jools, I am actually thinking about invading Kazkstan, good prediction. No one will stop the ruthless power of Russia. Jools, I am always posting on improving my nation, like my military, and other things.

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Quick WarVoid, take Kazakhstan!

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I was seriously thinking about taking Kakakhstan. But what are the chances of them standing up to a Russian invasion? Slim an none...

Maybe if I got Kazakhstan plus Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan then it would be fair.

Oh well, i'll have to discuss this when I get back in a week. Until then. Buenos afortunado.

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You can stand up to them, you're military isn't in too bad a shape.

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Even all those nations don't stand up to Russia. Just imagine 400 MiGs flying over Kazkhistan... you know I am kidding all of yeah. I want to keep imperialism at a minimal... hehe.

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And if you stay as a democracy, you'll be hit with an event as well as a few weapons malfunctions

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We are just a lightly militant Republic... not necessarily a democracy, just more of a rightist one, but nothing near fascism. But we may expand and improve our military a ton, meaning overhaul it.

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Well don't tell us now, make up a story for it for when the thread starts!

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Okay... when will the thread start?

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Oceania Confederation

Government: Federal Republic
Member States: Australia, Tasmania, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand
Population: 26,000,000
Capital: Canberra, Australia
Major Cities: Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Darwin, Perth, Wellington, Christchurch, Hobart, Port Moresby

Oceanian Army
50,000 Active troops
350,000 Active reserves
500 Tanks
500 Artillery Pieces
500 Armored Personnel Carriers

Oceanian Air Force
168 F-18 Hornets
(24 New Zealand)
Oceanian Navy
3 Missile Destroyers
7 Frigates (4 New Zealand)
6 Missile Frigates
12 Patrol Boats
4 Attack Submarines


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I say we start when we get all the claims sorted, like Bearcat and GeoDan.

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My screen name is Frymire 22. Some punk took Bearcat If I can't be German co-ruler with Geo than I will take France and Monaco.

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These are some Pre-Thread Stats that will be posted later, just FYI:

Russian Federation Stats
Captial: Moskva (Moscow)
Government: True Federal Republic (No Yeltsin Crap)
Economy: GDP- $590 Billion
Per Captia: $4,000
Growth: -4% (Will Be Brought Under Control in 12-16 months)
Goal of Sustained Growth: +4%

Russian Military Forces
Army

Divisions

1,200,000 Men (+ 500,000 reserves)
40 Motorized Rifle Divisions (+ 7 training Div)
17 Tank Divisions (+ 4 training Div)
5 Airborne Divisions (+ 1 training Div)
7 Artillery Divisions (+ 1 training Div)
8 Machine-Gun Artillery Division
These total do not include mobilization divisions.

Equipment totals

MBTs: Over 20,000
Light tanks: under 300
Recce AFVs: 6000 BRDMs
AFVs: 10,000 BMP-1s, 9000 BMP-2, 500 BMP-3, 3500 BMDs
APCs: 20,000 BTR 60/70/80, 2300 MTLB
Artillery: 1900 Guns (M-46, 2A36, 2S5, 2S19, 2S7)
1000-1500 D-20
Howitzers 11400
MRLs 3800

Current Deployment

Eastern Europe

I Corps
3rd Motorized Rifle
2nd Tank Division
4th Machine-Gun Artillery
5th Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near Smolensk

II Corps
1st Motorized Rifle
2nd Motorized Rifle
4th Motorized Rifle
1st Tank Division
1st Airborne
1st Artillary
2nd Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near the Russo-Ukrainian Border

III Corps
5th Motorized Rifle
6th Motorized Rifle
7th Motorized Rifle
8th Motorized Rifle
3rd Tank Division
4th Tank Division
2nd Airborne
1st Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near Smolensk

IV Corps
9th Motorized Rifle
10th Motorized Rifle
12th Motorized Rifle
5th Tank Division
6th Tank Division
3rd Airborne
Stationed near Bryansk

V Corps
13th Motorized Rifle
14th Motorized Rifle
15th Motorized Rifle
16th Motorized Rifle
7th Tank Division
8th Tank Division
3rd Machine-Gun Artillery
Tationed near Voronezh

VI Corps
17th Motorized Rifle
18th Motorized Rifle
19th Motorized Rifle
16th Tank Division
17th Tank Division
Stationed near Rostov

VII Corps
20th Motorized Rifle
32nd Motorized Rifle
14th Tank Division
6th Artillary
Stationed near Astrakhan

VIII Corps
21th Motorized Rifle
22nd Motorized Rifle
23rd Motorized Rifle
9th Tank Division
4th Airborne
7th Artillary
Stationed near St. Petersburg

IX Corps
25th Motorized Rifle
26th Motorized Rifle
27th Motorized Rifle
28th Motorized Rifle
10th Tank Division
11th Tank Division
5th Airborne
2nd Artillary
3rd Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near Moscow

X Corps
24th Motorized Rifle
39th Motorized Rifle
15th Tank Division
6th Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near Smolensk

XI Corps
30th Motorized Rifle
31st Motorized Rifle
13th Tank Division
14th Tank Division
3rd Artillary
Stationed near Smolensk

XII Corps
33rd Motorized Rifle
34th Motorized Rifle
12th Tank Division
4th Artillary
7th Machine-Gun Artillery
Stationed near St. Peterburg

XIII Corps
35th Motorized Rifle
36th Motorized Rifle
37th Motorized Rifle
12th Tank Division
13th Tank Division
5th Artillary
Stationed near Smolensk

Far East

XIV Corps
38th Motorized Rifle
40th Motorized Rifle
8th Machine-Gun Artillery
Sationed near Vladivostok

XV Corps - Naval Guard
29th Motorized Rifle
11th Motorized Rifle
Stationed near Severmorsk and Sevestapol

Navy



Fleets



NOR: Northern Fleet, headquarters at Severomorsk.


Attack Submarines
Del'fin K-263 1985 NOR
Kashalot K-322 1986 NOR
Kit K-391 1987 NOR
Narval K-331 1988 NOR
Bars K-480 1989 NOR
Pantera K-317 1990 NOR
Morzh K-419 1992 NOR
Krab K-276 1987 NOR Ara Guba

Ballistic Missile Submarines
TK-13 1985 NOR Nerpich'ya
TK-17 1987 NOR Nerpich'ya
TK-20 1989 NOR Nerpich'ya
K-84 1986 NOR Olen'ya
K-64 1988 NOR Olen'ya
K-114 1989 NOR Olen'ya
K-117 1990 NOR Olen'ya
K-18 1991 NOR Olen'ya
K-407 1992 NOR Olen'ya
K-424 1977 NOR
K-449 1977 NOR
K-455 1978 NOR
K-490 1978 NOR
K-487 1978 NOR
K-44 1979 NOR
K-496 1979 NOR
K-506 1979 NOR
K-211 1980 NOR
K-223 1980 NOR
K-180 1980 NOR
K-129 1981 NOR
K-130 1982 NOR
K-131 1982 NOR

Guided Missile Submarines
Krasnodar K-148 1986 NOR
Chel'yabinsk K-173 1989 NOR
Smolensk K-410 1990 NOR
Kursk K-141 1995 NOR
Orel K-266 1992 NOR
Tambov K-456 1991 NOR


Air Forces



Strategic Aviation



Strategic Bombers

1st-2nd Bomber - 12 Tu-95 M/K
3rd-4th Bomber - 14 Tu-95 MS6
....5th Bomber - 13 Tu-95 MS16
6th-7th Bomber - 12 Tu-95 MS16
8th-9th Bomber - 6 Tu-160

103 strategic bombers
24 Tu-95 M/K "Bear-B/G"
28 Tu-95 MS6 "Bear H"
37 Tu-95 MS16 "Bear H"
12 Tu-160 "Blackjack"

Frontal Aviation



Bombers

10th-11th Bomber - 15 Tu-16
12th-15th Bomber - 13 Tu-22
16th-26th Bomber - 10 Tu-22M

182 tactical bombers
30 Tu-16 "Badger"
52 Tu-22 "Blinder"
100 Tu-22M "Backfire"

Fighters

1st-10th Fighter - 20 MiG-23
11th-13th Fighter - 7 MiG-25
14th-35th Fighter - 15 MiG-29
36th-40th Fighter - 5 MiG-31
41st-51st Fighter - 15 Su-27

941 fighters
400 MiG-23 "Flogger"
21 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
345 MiG-29 "Fulcrum"
25 MiG-31 "Foxhound"
150 Su-27 "Flanker"

Ground-Attack

1st-11th Ground-Attack - 23 MiG-27
12th-24th Ground-Attack - 20 Su-17/22
25th-26th Ground-Attack - 31 Su-24
27th-36th Ground-Attack - 30 Su-24
37th-44th Ground-Attack - 24 Su-25

1072 attack aircraft
253 MiG-27 "Flogger"
260 Su-17/22 "Fitter"
367 Su-24 "Fencer"
192 Su-25 "Frogfoot"

Reconnaissance

761 reconnaissance and ECM aircraft
70 Tu-16 "Badger"
30 Tu-22 "Blinder"
80 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
80 Su-24 "Fencer"
60 Su-17 "Fitter"
40 Jak-28 "Brewer"
20 Il-22 "Coot"
125 An-12 "Cup"
250 An-26 "Curl"
6 Tu-134 "Crusty"
40 flight refueling tankers
20 Tu-16 "Badger"
20 Il-78 "Midas"

Transport Aviation

1457 transport aircraft
300 An-2 "Colt"
350 An-12 "Cup"
40 An-22 "**** "
100 An-24 "Coke"
50 An-32 "Cline"
20 An-72 "Coaler"
26 An-124 "Condor"
1 An-225 "Cossack"
375 Il-76 "Candid"
20 Tu-134/154 "Careless"
25 Jak-40 "Codling"
150 L-410VP "Turbojet"

Air Defense Force



Fighters and AWACS

1st-12th Air Defense - 20 MiG-23
13th-26th Air Defense - 10 MiG-25
27th-37th Air Defense - 20 Su-27
38th-58th Air Defense - 15 MiG-31
.....59th Air Defense - 12 Su-35
.....60th Air Defense - 16 AWACS
.....61st Air Defense - 16 A-50

882 Fighters
240 MiG-23 "Flogger"
130 MiG-25 "Foxbat"
200 Su-27 "Flanker"
300 MiG-31 "Foxhound"
12 Su-35 "Flanker"
16 AWACS aircraft
16 A-50 "Mainstay"

Navy Aircraft



Bombers

1st-3rd Naval Bomber - 22 Tu-16
4th-5th Naval Bomber - 20 Tu-22
6th-17th Naval Bomber - 15 Tu-22M

271 bombers
66 Tu-16 "Badger"
40 Tu-22 "Blinder"
165 Tu-22M "Backfire"

Fighters

1st-5th Naval Defense - 22 MiG-29M
6th-7th Naval Defense - 26 Su-33
8th-9th Naval Defense - 25 Su-27

212 fighters
110 MiG-29 "Fulcrum"
52 Su-33 "Flanker"
50 Su-27 "Flanker"

Attack

215 attack aircraft
35 Su-17 "Fitter"
110 Su-24 "Fencer"
70 Su-25 "Frogfoot"
6 Tu-16 "Badger" flight refueling tankers

98 reconnaissance and ECM aircraft
24 Tu-16 "Badger"
24 Tu-95 "Bear"
20 Tu-22 "Blinder"
20 Su-24 "Fencer"
3 Il-20 "Coot"
7 An-12 "Cub"

388 anti-submarine aircraft and helicopters
58 Tu-142 "Bear-F"
36 Il-38 "May"
55 Be-12 "Mail"
88 Ka-25 "Hormone-A"
88 Ka-27 "Helix-A"
63 Mi-14 "Haze-A"

155 transport aircraft
25 Ka-25 "Hormone"
25 Ka-29 "Helix"
10 Mi-6 "Hook"
70 Mi-8 "Hip"
25 Mi-14 "Haze"

A more complete list on Naval Craft are coming when war starts, Sami you gave me a very incomplete list of Navalry Weapons.


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Alright, looks like we're sorted to start!

Bearcat will have France & Monaco and GeoDan will have Germany, Low Countries, and Austria.

GC, you underline like you do at SidGames IIRC.

like this

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Am I going to be events mod?

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Moderators

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Happy?

Also, what about NBC weapons? I think we should start by tomorrow, so if no one has any objections...

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I don't like the idea of banning NBC weapons completely, but I am not sure how we could limit them.

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I don't want to ban them either, since the threat of nuclear apocalypse is real in this world and threads like this are supposed to paralell to real world to an extent (for fun of course) and we have a mod, so if there is a nuclear winter, we can change the clock back We can also delete nuclear attack posts if we have a moderator here *hint hint* *wink wink* *nudge nudge* *crash!* ouch!

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I was thinking more about chemical attacks in warfare. That could make some battles interesting.

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I've talked things over with Mao and I've decided to be the Suriname Imperium which consists of Suriname and all independent Caribbean states minus Cuba

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I talked to Bearcat: He wants France, Andorra, Monaco and Belgium. I will have Germany, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Austria. Ok?

 
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