20-12-2003 00:52									#1
	Revised New York Freedom Tower Unveiled Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Here are some pictures. It looks very beautiful to me and seems to "say" the appropriate kinds of things. Its link to the Statue of Liberty just seems like it was meant to be in the first place (before the World Trade Center). Hopefully, it can look as good as the artist's rendition.

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	20-12-2003 00:53									#2
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The "Freedom Tower" ?

:vomit:

-Arrian

	20-12-2003 00:53									#3
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I don't like one single tower- looks so isolated compared to what is around it.

	20-12-2003 00:54									#4
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Underwhelmed.

	20-12-2003 00:54									#5
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Why does every thing have to be Freedom this or this Freedom?

I agree, the name sucks

	20-12-2003 00:54									#6
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cheesy name most certainly.

	20-12-2003 00:55									#7
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This just works. I was skeptical upon seeing the first drawings.

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	20-12-2003 00:55									#8
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At least it will be taller than Shanghai's Crushing Oppression Building.

	20-12-2003 00:56									#9
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But a very pretty tower just the same.

Now if the finished product will look anything like the architect's concept is to be seen.

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Wouldn't it be terrorist target #1? I hate to admit it but I would hesitate to move in.

	20-12-2003 00:59									#11
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quote: Underwhelmed.

I was very underwhelmed the first time, but not this time. Maybe I'm just in a better mood today and it strikes me differently.

	20-12-2003 01:02									#12
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Not particularly inspiring.

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Well, if that's the concensus of New Yorkers, they ought to put it through another round of review and revision. Y'all are going to have to be looking at it each day. Not me.

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Perhaps I'm so critical because I feel somewhat possessive of my skyline. Since this is the view I look out at every day from my office, I am a bit particular about it. I liked that the WTC was so massive, and this just doesn't have that kind of grandeur. It's pretty in a rather generic kind of way, but hardly majestic.

	20-12-2003 01:07									#15
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Well, most NewYorkers hated the World Trade Towers when they were first built...but after they were gone, the New York skyline looks rather naked.

So I guess you get used to things after a while (even those things that in the past you didn't like).

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quote: Originally posted by Arrian The "Freedom Tower" ? :vomit: -Arrian

What, they should have called it say Merrill Lynch tower, or Mercantile exchange tower, or whatever? Given the location and what happened, i see no problem with the name, especially given that its down the block from Liberty Plaza, close to Fraunces Tavern, and will make a visual counter to the SOL.

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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Well, most New Yorkers hated the World Trade Towers when they were first built.

We hate everything at first.

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The Trade Towers were very masculine. This is a somewhat feminine building.

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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Well, most NewYorkers hated the World Trade Towers when they were first built...

And ISTR the architecture critics hated them as well - too massive, yet too pin-stripey minimalist, none of the character of traditional NY skyscrapers, and an awful windswept plaza in between. But they did grow on you over time.

	20-12-2003 01:13									#20
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark What, they should have called it say Merrill Lynch tower, or Mercantile exchange tower, or whatever? Given the location and what happened, i see no problem with the name, especially given that its down the block from Liberty Plaza, close to Fraunces Tavern, and will make a visual counter to the SOL.

What's wrong with "World Trade Center?"

	20-12-2003 01:17									#21
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Nothing. Call it whatever you damn well want to.

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quote: What's wrong with "World Trade Center?"

Nothing.

-Arrian

edit: damn you, DanS!

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quote: This just works.

It's very Asian-tower looking... something I think our metropolis' need (they have some jaw-dropping designs). And I like the fact that it is exactly 1776 feet .

NY takes back the tallest building prize .

	20-12-2003 02:39									#24
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The World Trade Center was a wonderfull name, nice and global. Why not the International Trade center? The Nexus? That sounds nice.

"Freedom Tower"? NOT a New York name.

	20-12-2003 02:55									#25
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Think futuristic. Interstellar Trade Center. Intergalactic Trade Center.

	20-12-2003 02:57									#26
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New York is a city of Commerce and immigration, not the Mecca of cheesy Americana, which something named "freedom tower" would be emblematic of.

	20-12-2003 02:57									#27
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Space Mountain or Space Needle

Intergalatic Phallic Symbol of Doom Trade Center

or Nexus, I like nexus

	20-12-2003 03:01									#28
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Why in God's name do these buildings have to have such a long and useless spire on top?!

	20-12-2003 03:03									#29
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So it can be taller than the other ones .

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Lets add a zeppelin tower at the end!