20-12-2003 04:48									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon But were you one of the "damn studying, let's go to the pub" crowd?

I'm one of those "damn studying, where's my Xbox\PC\Boyfriend?!?!"

	20-12-2003 04:49									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon La la la....

And to think this man is a university instructor.

No less one that has mastered the art of debate and argument as a philosophy PhD student, but can't even hold his own against a bratty computer nerd from Calgary.

	20-12-2003 04:49									#33
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Naw, I don't drink. I just wasn't a good student, especially if I didn't care for the subject.

	20-12-2003 04:53									#34
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Agathon is David Spade?

	20-12-2003 04:57									#35
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Agathon is David Spade?

Oh no, my secret's out.

	20-12-2003 05:03									#36
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One must wonder how intelligent it is for someone to read a thread started by someone who is on their ignore list.

	20-12-2003 05:45									#37
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He just wanted to show off that you're his enemy, that's my guess.

Going to thread and announcing that the thread starter is on your ignore raises some questions, but to be honest, I've done it to Zylka, once.

Apart from that exception, I don't click on the links to threads made by either Zylka nor Slowwhand.

	20-12-2003 05:55									#38
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quote: Philosophy is useful in what?

It helps in debating and argument. After all 'logic' is part of philosophy as is 'ethics'.

quote: Apart from that exception, I don't click on the links to threads made by either Zylka nor Slowwhand.

Missing out.

	20-12-2003 06:26									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: Philosophy is useful in what? It helps in debating and argument. After all 'logic' is part of philosophy as is 'ethics'.

Not necessarily. See Agathon for Exhibit A...

	20-12-2003 06:28									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Asher And to think this man is a university instructor. No less one that has mastered the art of debate and argument as a philosophy PhD student, but can't even hold his own against a bratty computer nerd from Calgary.

Obviously you don't really get the ignore feature either... Agathon can't read your sniping. So why try to antagonize somebody who can't read what you say?

	20-12-2003 06:41									#41
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously you don't really get the ignore feature either... Agathon can't read your sniping. So why try to antagonize somebody who can't read what you say?

Because he wants other people to see it, sillykins.

	20-12-2003 06:46									#42
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"Sillykins"?

No, not the thread, but the responses to Agathon. That's what I was referring to.

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And that was what I was answering in regards to, booboo.

	20-12-2003 06:52									#44
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quote: the art of bullshit. I'm just good at it. - Asher

And I must agree that Agathon does not seem to behave like the rational educated adult he tries to portray himself to be.

And still, Asher, I seriously question the quality of your philosophy lessons. It's not that easy of a subject. And it is a very interesting and important subject, so I really don't get why are you so proud that you have skipped most lessons.

You've said it yourself, that the degree is supposed to get you a diverse education and make you more enlightened. And then you go and tell us how proud you are that you managed to avoid all that. Doesn't sound so good

	20-12-2003 06:55									#45
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Obviously you don't really get the ignore feature either... Agathon can't read your sniping. So why try to antagonize somebody who can't read what you say?

Because he's done that before, and he can't resist reading it.

I know he does, and he does too.

	20-12-2003 06:58									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Sirotnikov And still, Asher, I seriously question the quality of your philosophy lessons. It's not that easy of a subject. And it is a very interesting and important subject, so I really don't get why are you so proud that you have skipped most lessons.

My ass it's not that easy of a subject. It may be important to some people, just like remedical English is important to some people.

It says something about the important and usefulness of a course if you can skip 95% of the lectures and pull an A-.

quote: You've said it yourself, that the degree is supposed to get you a diverse education and make you more enlightened. And then you go and tell us how proud you are that you managed to avoid all that. Doesn't sound so good

How did I avoid it if I've taken the courses? It's just that I find the Philosophy classes are a complete joke, as are the people who teach them.

And I agree that the quality of instruction may have been an issue, I was taught by a fellow named Dr. Brian Grant, from New Zealand, who happens to have been one of Lee Churchman's (Agathon) Masters professor.

	20-12-2003 07:03									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Asher GPA = Grade Point Average It's a number between 0 and 4 which gives a rough approximation for how well someone does in school. 4.0 = A/A+ 3.7 = A- 3.5 = B+ etc

You get a 3.5 for a B+? WTF?

We got 3.3's for B+'s

	20-12-2003 07:04									#48
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Hmm. Maybe it's 3.3 here, too. Don't pay much attention.

	20-12-2003 07:19									#49
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quote: It's not that easy of a subject.

Intro Philosophy courses are very easy, Siro. They don't go much deeper than Poly Sci courses. When you get deeper into the subject do they become more difficult, especially in reading Kant and Hegel .

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I regret that the animosity between Agathon and Asher has gone this far. I'll miss your philosopical discussions, guys.

	20-12-2003 08:13									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: It's not that easy of a subject. Intro Philosophy courses are very easy, Siro

So are intro to physics courses, yet it seems to me that philosophy students have more trouble with physics than physics students have with philosophy.

	20-12-2003 09:06									#52
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So ya got an A- in Philosophy? Congrats, but . . .

"This too shall pass."

	20-12-2003 09:07									#53
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I've had two Philosophy courses now, and in both ones I've never had a mark lower than an A-.

The other one was Philosophy of Logic -- and the Philosophy majors really struggled with that class, though the majority of the class was CompSci majors and laughed at the concept of spending two weeks explaining boolean logic to dumbfounded Philosophers.

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Asher's cockiness toward philosophy is truly amazing.

	20-12-2003 09:23									#55
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It's only natural to feel superior to people who spent their lives trying to solve the problem of the liar's paradox...

	20-12-2003 09:29									#56
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quote: So are intro to physics courses, yet it seems to me that philosophy students have more trouble with physics than physics students have with philosophy.

:shrug: I found physics intro classes fairly easy and I'm a poly sci major.

	20-12-2003 09:29									#57
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quote: It's only natural to feel superior to people who spent their lives trying to solve the problem of the liar's paradox...

And the same to people who live their lives thinking that the whole subject of philosophy reduces to the liar's paradox.

	20-12-2003 09:31									#58
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond And the same to people who live their lives thinking that the whole subject of philosophy reduces to the liar's paradox.

What about people who reduce all arguments down to blatant strawmen?

	20-12-2003 09:32									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: So are intro to physics courses, yet it seems to me that philosophy students have more trouble with physics than physics students have with philosophy. :shrug: I found physics intro classes fairly easy and I'm a poly sci major.

You've got more of a mathematical background than philosophers, I'd think. Haven't you taken quite a few econ courses?

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Yeah, but I didn't need the upper level math (by upper level I mean Pre-Calculus and then Calculus) . Not really anyway.