20-12-2003 09:46									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What about people who reduce all arguments down to blatant strawmen?

What you think to be blatant strawmen may be not so blatant after all.

	20-12-2003 09:47									#62
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Perhaps you could write your PhD thesis for Philosophy on that.

	20-12-2003 09:49									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You've got more of a mathematical background than philosophers, I'd think. Haven't you taken quite a few econ courses?

Well, at least philosophers tend to be familiar with the axiomatic foundations of mathematics.

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Not as well as they should, evidently.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Perhaps you could write your PhD thesis for Philosophy on that.

That's a good idea. If Agathon agrees to be my supervisor.

	20-12-2003 10:26									#66
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Quoting is overrated, so it's too bad Agathon has has you on ignore, so he'll never read it.

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	20-12-2003 11:17									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Yeah, but I didn't need the upper level math (by upper level I mean Pre-Calculus and then Calculus) . Not really anyway.

If you didn't need calculus then you didn't take physics.

	20-12-2003 11:20									#70
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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond Well, at least philosophers tend to be familiar with the axiomatic foundations of mathematics.

I'm a physicist/mathematician, and I'm very well acquainted with the axiomatic foundations of every branch of mathematics commonly used by any people other than mathematicians.

Would you like me to list the peano axioms? How about the set-theoretic axioms? Perhaps you'd like to go over the concept of a limit, or a metric space, or a topology, or a group....

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I'm a physicist/mathematician, and I'm very well acquainted with the axiomatic foundations of every branch of mathematics commonly used by any people other than mathematicians. Would you like me to list the peano axioms? How about the set-theoretic axioms? Perhaps you'd like to go over the concept of a limit, or a metric space, or a topology, or a group....

I have no doubt that you can list them all. But so what? It would be stupid to claim that philosophers know them better than you or physicists/mathematicians in general. What I meant to say is that the axiomatic approach is a subject of study within the framework of philosophy too. In fact, there are certain subtle points that are best discussed precisely within this framework. That's why philosophers tend to be rather clued on this matter.

	20-12-2003 12:08									#72
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So bravo for Philosophers knowing a subset of what physicists know?

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Philosophers know it from a different angle.

	20-12-2003 12:13									#74
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Which angle is that?

	20-12-2003 12:14									#75
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In other words an angle where they don't actually understand from?

I don't get it.

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quote: Which angle is that?

And you are asking this just after getting an A?

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quote: Originally posted by The Vagabond And you are asking this just after getting an A?

It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour.

	20-12-2003 12:18									#78
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Scientists do things, and philosophers talk about what they've done. Sweet.

In my business what we call professors who do that is "retired" or "useless"...

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quote: Originally posted by Asher It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour.

You're an odd guy, Dave.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher It was an A-, I lost marks in my final essay for taking making light of drunk, unemployed people running over newborns. He doesn't understand my humour.

Perhaps you presented this from the wrong angle...

	20-12-2003 12:26									#81
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Scientists do things, and philosophers talk about what they've done. Sweet.

Hell, but they talk about it from a different angle!

	20-12-2003 19:42									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Japher It makes him more marketable even though he could care less about philosophy and it is something he will never need or put on his CV

I suspect most people do look at transcripts?

	20-12-2003 19:46									#83
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