20-12-2003 03:26									#1
	I just got an A- in Philosophy Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

And I went to class only for the first week.

That course is awesome, if only life was this easy my friends.

	20-12-2003 03:27									#2
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Awesome? Does the grade do anything good for you?

	20-12-2003 03:29									#3
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Boosts my GPA and gives me my last required Humanities credit.

I'm applying for internships now so my GPA matters.

All of the real courses are a ton of work and actually hard, Philosophy was like recess...

	20-12-2003 03:33									#4
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How would you translate that to a Finnish fellow who has never been outside Yurop?

	20-12-2003 03:36									#5
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GPA = Grade Point Average.. those poor murricans.. worrying about their points..
Internship is harjoittelija like we have for many companies while you're studying..

credits are like opintoviikot.

	20-12-2003 03:37									#6
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It makes him more marketable even though he could care less about philosophy and it is something he will never need or put on his CV

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GPA = Grade Point Average
It's a number between 0 and 4 which gives a rough approximation for how well someone does in school.

4.0 = A/A+
3.7 = A-
3.5 = B+

etc

Internship is where the school places me with a company for a period of 12-18 months (Microsoft, Sun, IBM, etc. all take interns each year from the school), and you get paid as well as work experience, and write a report. Then you go back and do your final year.

To get my BSc in Computer Science, I need X many courses from several faculties to get a "diverse" education. So I needed to take 4(!!) humanities courses (Languages, Philosophy, etc.)

	20-12-2003 03:39									#8
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Asher, You need humanitie credits to get your degree at compsci? DUde, you realize that's not exactly comp sci, and is away from actual comp sci studies? 100% programming, that's were it's at .

	20-12-2003 03:42									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Asher, You need humanitie credits to get your degree at compsci? DUde, you realize that's not exactly comp sci, and is away from actual comp sci studies? 100% programming, that's were it's at .

The point of universities, at least in North America, is to give you a higher level of education: not just in your field, but in general. It's supposed to make you more enlightened.

That's why I've had to take courses like Economics (2 of them), Philosophy, English, History, etc. in addition to math & computer science.

If I wanted a simple programming diploma I could've gone to some crappy 2-year technical school.

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This way, asher's more versatile!

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quote: The point of universities, at least in North America, is to give you a higher level of education: not just in your field, but in general. It's supposed to make you more enlightened.

Philosophy is useful in what? Being a teacher of Philosophy. What a complete piece of BS, if you ask me.

When I grow up big'n'bold, I'm going to become a dictator of this continent, develope a massive superiority complex and start executing humanists and "pro-culture" -folks en masse.

That'll teach 'em.

	20-12-2003 03:45									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Asher, You need humanitie credits to get your degree at compsci? DUde, you realize that's not exactly comp sci, and is away from actual comp sci studies? 100% programming, that's were it's at .

But then he'd just end up being a computer nerd, not the well rounded, deep thinking individual that will emerge, butterfly-like, after he has graduated!

	20-12-2003 03:47									#13
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud This way, asher's more versatile!

It's rather selfish not to be versatile.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Philosophy is useful in what? Being a teacher at Philosophy. What a complete piece of BS, if you ask me.

I agree, it was a waste of my time, but it was required, so what can ya do.

	20-12-2003 03:48									#16
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That's big bunch of BS. I can take philosophy if I want to. I can take ancient folklores if I want to. No one makes me take them to get my degree. I do as I choose. You should have the same option too. After all, you are adults, you should have the power to decide what's good for you, right?

	20-12-2003 03:50									#17
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Nuh-huh, is that university completely free from public funding?

	20-12-2003 03:51									#18
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But congrats on outstanding job anyway

oh and ps. I have other courses as well.. some of them are not so computer oriented . Like mathematics!

	20-12-2003 03:52									#19
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Tuomerehu, mine? no, but I only HAVE to take 1 credit worth of Swedish, and I don't even have to take it, if I write an essay. Booyaa!

	20-12-2003 03:53									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka But congrats on outstanding job anyway oh and ps. I have other courses as well.. some of them are not so computer oriented . Like mathematics!

The vast majority of my courses are not directly computer related this term. Mostly math courses.

Computer Science is more math than programming...

	20-12-2003 03:54									#21
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Congratulations Asher.

My daughter also informs me that she got straight A's in her first semester at med-school.

	20-12-2003 03:54									#22
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General Education (GE) units posted my GPA as well. I took philosophy and a ton of environmental courses... Now I'm just gross poluter; at least I know how I am affecting the environ.

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Asher, yeah. We have lots of required math courses. But that's true what you say. That's what you need to do, get supporting courses, and mathematics is definitely supporting, vital and very relevant.

	20-12-2003 04:13									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka GPA = Grade Point Average.. those poor murricans.. worrying about their points.. Internship is harjoittelija like we have for many companies while you're studying.. credits are like opintoviikot.

Asher is, you know, Canadian. In case you didn't know where Calgary, Alberta was...

Of course this is a very special troll, with but one target. I can't wait until the target hits this thread...

*JohnT gets a pot of coffee, pulls up chair to watch the catfight.*

	20-12-2003 04:14									#25
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JohnT, Oh yeah.... how could I forget

No matter, Canada roooooooocks.

	20-12-2003 04:27									#26
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Of course this is a very special troll, with but one target. I can't wait until the target hits this thread... *JohnT gets a pot of coffee, pulls up chair to watch the catfight.*

It's not going to happen. Asher is on ignore and will remain so indefinitely. Presumably he's desperately seeking revenge for the terrible injustice of UR being made a mod, as if that was something to do with me.

That's not to say that I didn't nearly die laughing when I heard (courtesy of the proverbial "little bird").

Ming has made it clear that this sort of thing will result in restrictions, so I'm not going to put myself in the firing line for something I don't really care about.

Anyway...

Good for him getting an A- (if that's in fact what happened - as I said, he's on ignore). It's not that hard in an introductory course, but many people manage worse (you should see some of the cretins I've taught).

	20-12-2003 04:29									#27
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I managed worse. Consider me cretinous.

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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I managed worse. Consider me cretinous.

But were you one of the "damn studying, let's go to the pub" crowd?

	20-12-2003 04:47									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon It's not going to happen. Asher is on ignore and will remain so indefinitely.

You sound so proud.

I have successfully figured out how to use the ignore list and will brag about it continuously, it shows I am infact learned and mature.

quote: Good for him getting an A- (if that's in fact what happened - as I said, he's on ignore). It's not that hard in an introductory course, but many people manage worse (you should see some of the cretins I've taught).

I don't see how it's possible to manage worse. I skipped 95% of the classes and skimread the material and wrote bullshit essays on it.

Philosophy is the art of bullshit. I'm just good at it.

	20-12-2003 04:48									#30
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La la la....