20-12-2003 18:22									#1
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The last one went over 500... time for a new one.

Don't forget that there are three games today, so make you picks in all your pools and get those fantasy line up set...

	20-12-2003 19:12									#2
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I predict huge win for Eagles over SF and a surprise upset of the Rams by Bengals. These are the only 2 games that matter, IMHO.

	20-12-2003 23:00									#3
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Colts v Broncos? Minnestoa v Chiefs?

	20-12-2003 23:51									#4
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Keep the ball in Duckett's hands, dammit Atlanta!

	21-12-2003 00:10									#5
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I knew I should have picked Atl this week! What was I thinking. Tampa Bay isn't that good this year.

	21-12-2003 03:04									#6
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Have fun watching the other playoff teams from home, Tampa Bay.

	21-12-2003 03:16									#7
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MWAHAHAHA! And you people were saying how Vick was overrated and he never beat Tampa. Without him they never would have beaten the Bucs.

Woot!!

	21-12-2003 03:43									#8
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I wonder what Reismark will say if he ever dares to show his face again

	21-12-2003 04:03									#9
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And Minnesota is looking REAL good against KC. 14-0 Minn.

	21-12-2003 04:04									#10
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GO MINNESOTA!!!!!

	21-12-2003 04:40									#11
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BOOOO MINNESOTA

	21-12-2003 05:13									#12
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I think the Chiefs are going to be a little pissed when they play the Bears next week...

	21-12-2003 05:18									#13
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I give up on trying to understand the Vikings. As I write this, they're 31-0 on the Chiefs. And yet last week, they had a helluva fight with the Bears (who had a green QB and a losing record).

Best I can figure, when you're a Vikings fan — that's me, despite my mood swings — you should dread the games against "loser" teams and relax when the Vikes go up against a "winning" team.

Gatkeeper

	21-12-2003 05:31									#14
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*sighs*

And for the sixth time this season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are beaten by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Ah well. As long as Seattle or an AFC team wins the Super Bowl I won't care.

	21-12-2003 05:52									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper I give up on trying to understand the Vikings. As I write this, they're 31-0 on the Chiefs. And yet last week, they had a helluva fight with the Bears (who had a green QB and a losing record). Best I can figure, when you're a Vikings fan — that's me, despite my mood swings — you should dread the games against "loser" teams and relax when the Vikes go up against a "winning" team. Gatekeeper

The Vikings did the same thing to my 'Phins almost exactly a year ago today. Crappy team all season last year, then suddenly they play a whale of a game on a Saturday afternoon and deal my Dolphins a real blow to their playoff chances.
Randy Moss is said to only really play when the games are broadcast nationally (i.e. Monday Nighters, Sunday Nighters, etc.), however I think this applies to the whole team - very different team than the one that played Chicago last week.....


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	21-12-2003 06:14									#16
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quote: And for the sixth time this season, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are beaten by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That's a good trick . In that case the Falcons were beaten by the Falcons about 5 times.

	21-12-2003 08:41									#17
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So long as Indianapolis win against the Broncos tommorow, Indianapolis will have a first week bye.

	21-12-2003 12:32									#18
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well I got 2 right today. I did not expect KC to lay a big egg like that. Hmm

This is the first time I have doubted my preseason pick of KC to win the superbowl. Their defense is atrocious! They won't make it past the wild card round of the playoffs with a defense like that. Pathetic.

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Patriots Power! Eleven in a row now!

	21-12-2003 14:18									#20
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Right now, I'm a big Oakland Raiders supporter. At least til halftime of Monday's game against Green Bay.

	21-12-2003 14:31									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper I give up on trying to understand the Vikings. As I write this, they're 31-0 on the Chiefs. And yet last week, they had a helluva fight with the Bears (who had a green QB and a losing record).

It's pretty easy to understand... The KC defense just sucks. And the Vikings were at home in their cushy dome and not outdoors on the road in the cold. The Chiefs are giving up an average of over 200 yards rushing per game in the last 7 games and at least 2 rushing touchdowns per game. With a defense like that, they aren't going to win if their offense doesn't score a ton of points. The Bears defense isn't that bad any more

	21-12-2003 14:37									#22
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Ming:

Yeah, I saw some stats on the KC defense after the game ... apparently they've really gone downhill in the last six games or so ... they're now allowing an average of 5.7 yard per carry running or something like that.

The Bears defense has quite aways to go to match the '85 team.

Next week the Vikes are at Arizona. I'm sweating already.

Gatekeeper

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Darsnan:

I've heard the same about Moss, too. I also read he's supposed to have matured this season ... but that's wishful thinking on somebody's part, IMO. I mean, he's gotten more mature, yes, but mature in the sense of, say, a college freshman.

Still, he's good at what he does. No taking that away from him.

Gatekeeper

	21-12-2003 19:13									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper The Bears defense has quite aways to go to match the '85 team.

The Bears 85 defense would be difficult for ANYBODY to match... one of the best defenses of all time

But the current Bears are looking better. Now that they have two corners that can go man to man against good receivers, it gives them more options. Before, the safties had to stay in coverage to support weak corner play.

	21-12-2003 19:57									#24
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It's not just the Chiefs; defenses all over the NFL are going to hell in a handbasket, particularly against the run. Makes me wonder why anyone watches the NFL; college football was always more exciting and now the kids play better fundamental football than the pros...

	21-12-2003 20:07									#25
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At least in the Pros, there is only a single championship team in any given year

	21-12-2003 21:06									#26
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College football is too damn confusing. Can't keep track of 70 different teams. I don't know who half of them are. They play in like a dozen different leagues. Like I care to watch the sugar bowl, rose bowl, nacho bowl, citris bowl, alamo bowl, fiesta bowl, tapiocca bowl, galleryfurniture.com bowl (!!), etc.

Just give me one big SUPERBOWL for all the marbles.

Much easier to follow, the NFL is.

	21-12-2003 23:24									#27
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better football in college? I think not.

Yes games with scores like 77-0 are real interesting

	22-12-2003 00:47									#28
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One defense in the NFL is still tight as a drum - THE PATRIOTS DEFENSE.

	22-12-2003 00:49									#29
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not the Detroit Lions- that's for sure.

I thought for sure the Panthers could not cover such an insane point spread without stephen davis.

This isn't a must win for them as they have no hope of getting a first round bye.

	22-12-2003 00:59									#30
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NFL rules, college DROOLS! Especially with BCS ... those chickens should just institute a play-off system.