21-12-2003 13:48									#1
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quote: The ITER project is to be a joint venture between the United States, China, Russia, South Korea, the European Union and Japan. Japanese officials said their site offered access to a port and ample supplies of sea and fresh water, which they felt offered an advantage over the French site. Fabio Fabbi, spokesman for European Union Research Commissioner Philippe Busquin, said the bloc would continue to campaign for its site in Cadarache, near the Mediterranean port Marseille.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/scienc...reut/index.html


Personally I like the Japanese site.

USA, Korea, and Japan favor the Japanese site.

Eurocoms and China like the French site.

Obviously some of this is politically motivated but what about some third party site like Mexico, Brazil or Italy.

	21-12-2003 14:03									#2
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go for france. if it blows up, it doesn't nuke anything important. just eurodisney.

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No blood for fusion reactors!

	21-12-2003 14:14									#6
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I think it's more important they build it rather than where they build it. Voted for the French site though because I would like to go there and see this thing live some day

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Ideally, a place that isn't prone to earthquakes, is temperate, and has access to a large source of water.

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Then Japan is out.

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Heh. Pretty much any place along the Pacific Ring of Fire, including the West Coast of the United States.

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Hence my vote for France.

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Yeah, France sounds good for something that's experimental. Let them be the lab rats for once.

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I'm glad somebody noticed the volcanic arc...how the hell did Japan get on the short list?

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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Yeah, France sounds good for something that's experimental. Let them be the lab rats for once. Gatekeeper

Thanks. But it is an EU site which happens to be anecdotically located in France.

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I'm sure the French will sincerely value the distinction, DAVOUT. You hear that, France! You're just an a vague part of the might European Union! You have no real individual identity now! Ha! You have been assimilated!

Heh. The French province of the European Union will make a fine location for the experimental fusion reactor.

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Who cares about earthquakes? I'm pretty sure a reactor that's built to contain the fires of creation could handle a little ground-shakage...

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Funny, isn't it? I think it won't.


I chose france. And as Combat has put it, the most important thing is that we'll build it. EXTREMELY important. Of course, what really pisses me off is that anyone of the countries above could've done it by itself with proper funding ( I am not talking pie in the sky here, either, btw, esp. since the ENORMOUS save on oil will cover it in, oh, a year, or so. )

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Give France the sabotaged version. We already hit Japan with a nuclear bomb

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What are the chances that this thing is actually going to generate more energy than it consumes? No one has yet to build a fusion reactor that produces a significantly positive yield of electricty, so what is the point of building this thing?

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove No one has yet to build a fusion reactor that produces a significantly positive yield of electricty, so what is the point of building this thing?

To experiment, so that the production processes become more efficient?

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Maybe if we build a really big version, we can leap through the threshold.

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I've got some room in my basement.

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Finland. Because we rule and could provide all the water, stable conditions (no earthquakes, no storms) and because we deserve it being good sports.

Plus politically we are more neutral than any of these countries, so there would be no beef and complaining.

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But you're Finns!

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Actually Finland DOES sound like a good idea...

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Finland +1

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I'm really not sure. The South of France is close to an earthquake zone as well. I don't know if it actually suffers from tremors, however.

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France. Keep it as far away from China as possible.

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France. Get it nice and close to CERN so the scientists can visit each other on weekends.

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Also we're more safe more possible terror attacks. We can provide the security to it, plus we'd benefit from the visitors if there are some. Also we have no agendas or power struggle. Geographically using the eurocentric world view, we are center, and top, which makes the distance to the Fusion Reactor almost the same for everyone (Japan, the US, Asia, Europe naturally closer, but there's a sea between us), so.. bring it on. We can offer unbiased location and perhaps the most stable conditions and location.

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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Also we're more safe more possible terror attacks. We can provide the security to it, plus we'd benefit from the visitors if there are some.

Yeah, because there are wwwwwwwwwaaaayyyy more Muslims with which (most) Terrorists can hide in Japan, then say, France.