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Originally posted by Peter Triggs
@ Dr Strangelove. Is this an isolated opinion or is the link between cannabis and schizophrenia becoming more established? I've come across several articles about it over the past two or three years.
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Yes it is pretty well known, but real medical data doesn't get anywhere near as well publicised as stuff put out by organized crime...errr, I mean, groups devoted to the legalization of drugs.
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Dr Strangelove
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If we legalise drugs won't tens of thousands of "gangstas" have to find some other way of making as much money as possible with the least amount of effort? My guess is that this would mean their shifting to other illegal endeavors like armed robbery, car theft, carjacking, prostitution and extortion.
By the way, can anyone give me the definition of "a lid"?
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oedo
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and the revolution
Feb 2000
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by Theben
Don't you usually haunt the civ2 forums, oedo? What brings you to the OT? |
I occasionally post here. I think it´s for about one year now. no idea what was the first OT- thread I posted in. most probably something left-wing against right-wing. 
skywalker: I also learned about drugs at school. probably everybody did. the school´s intention is keeping kids away from drugs, which is generally ok. later, however, I found out that my teachers and my schoolbooks were extremely overdoing when it came to the the medical risks and the addictivness of THC. this was my experience.
see, if a teacher wants, he can even say things about oxygen which make you want to stop breathing immediately. he doesn´t even have to lie. oxygen is a poison.
I don´t want to recommend you to try pot. you won´t miss anything, if you stay away from it. but if you want to know more about it, you should at least seek some other sources, like books of people, who have experienced pot. school is only one source and it´s in the nature that school is a biased source.
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If we legalise drugs won't tens of thousands of "gangstas" have to find some other way of making as much money as possible with the least amount of effort? My guess is that this would mean their shifting to other illegal endeavors like armed robbery, car theft, carjacking, prostitution and extortion.
By the way, can anyone give me the definition of "a lid"? |
Well, since alot of these guys sell other stuff too like crack and coke, I'm sure it won't be too big of a deal for them.
And, "a lid" in what context?
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Dr Strangelove
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Hey! I've got a really crazy idea! Why don't we leave the process of determination whether marijuana has medical benefits up to the medical community? After all, the process works great 90% of the time. Drugs that have real utility get approved eventually, yet only a few of them have to be pulled from the market every year. What a great idea!
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Dr Strangelove
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Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn
And, "a lid" in what context? |
A "lid" of marijuana of course, or has that unit of measurement gone out of usage?
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JimmyCracksCorn
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Macedonia - Sovereign country north of Greece.
Dec 2002
time: 05:32
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
A "lid" of marijuana of course, or has that unit of measurement gone out of usage? |
Um, I'm not familiar with it, but that doesn't mean anything...
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Berzerker
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topeka, kansas,USA
May 1999
time: 23:32
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Strangelove - quote:
If we legalise drugs won't tens of thousands of "gangstas" have to find some other way of making as much money as possible with the least amount of effort? My guess is that this would mean their shifting to other illegal endeavors like armed robbery, car theft, carjacking, prostitution and extortion. |
Interesting hypothesis, pot should remain illegal so fewer people will resort to other crimes to make money? Then wouldn't it make sense to be very relaxed about enforcing the pot laws since strict punishment and harsh penalties will only drive some of these gangsters back to other criminal endeavors?
According to your argument, homicide rates should have increased after alcohol prohibition was repealed since all those gangsters involved in the illicit alcohol market would have had to find other more dangerous and illegal ways to make money. That didn't happen, the homicide rate dropped 13 years in a row to about half the rate under alcohol prohibition and didn't go back up to prohibition levels until the modern drug war when, based on your argument, crime should have decreased as more criminals went back to drug dealing.
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Hey! I've got a really crazy idea! Why don't we leave the process of determination whether marijuana has medical benefits up to the medical community? After all, the process works great 90% of the time. |
You mean the people who have to ask me "where does it hurt" are more qualified than me to know if it hurts? I have a better idea, let's ask the people using the pot if it affords them relief, but the American Medical Association opposed the ban on pot back in 1937 and you simply ignored that fact the last time this issue was debated.
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Drugs that have real utility get approved eventually, yet only a few of them have to be pulled from the market every year. What a great idea! |
Too bad it doesn't work that way, pot has ~5,000 years of proven utility and the politicians ignore that fact to keep it illegal. Tell us, Doc, does pot have medicinal properties (real utility)? Just a simple yes or no answer will do here...
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Flip McWho
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New Zealand
May 2002
time: 17:32
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The funny thing is that I pretty much fit into that category too |
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Flip, whats the bud like in NZ? |
Eh, it ain't too bad a. Can be a bit costly though. Ummm working in tinnies which is god knows how much in gramage its $20NZD - About $5 for a joint if that helps any. We gotta be careful too as the sh*t is all priced the same so we don't know if we are getting good sh*t or not till we use it. I think its around $100 for a pound. Never buy that high.
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Flip, didn't you read my post? |
Hmmmm mustn't off 
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Ted, just say, "I'd hit it," and go wander off somewhere. |
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Interesting hypothesis, pot should remain illegal so fewer people will resort to other crimes to make money? Then wouldn't it make sense to be very relaxed about enforcing the pot laws since strict punishment and harsh penalties will only drive some of these gangsters back to other criminal endeavors? According to your argument, homicide rates should have increased after alcohol prohibition was repealed since all those gangsters involved in the illicit alcohol market would have had to find other more dangerous and illegal ways to make money. That didn't happen, the homicide rate dropped 13 years in a row to about half the rate under alcohol prohibition and didn't go back up to prohibition levels until the modern drug war when, based on your argument, crime should have decreased as more criminals went back to drug dealing. |
Thanks for that Berzerker, this is one of the main arguments that the people I've been arguing with use.
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28-12-2003 01:21
D'oh! I was thinking pounds for some reason, and messed up my conversion tables. 1 oz.=28 grams, not 2.8.
, and don't feel so run down all the time. 
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