08-01-2004 14:35									#301
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quote: Originally posted by Saras There were iirc norwegian rescue teams ready to go in immediately, but nooo, Norway is NATO, nyet nyet nyet.

Oi da ladno, kogo by oni tam spasli. Nu nemogli nikakie NATO'vzi tam nikogo spasti, prosto potomu, chto oni by nikogda vnutr' ne popali. Chtoby popast' nado bylo sostykovat'sya so shluzom hvostovogo oseka, a diametr etoi durki u nashih lodok i u nato'vskih lodok raznui. Edinogo mirovogo standarta v etom plane eshe ne sushestvuyet, poetomu ot inostrannyh spasateley- tolku nikakogo.

	08-01-2004 14:42									#302
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Well, with that same ABM treaty the ABM ring around Moscow and the radar array in Siberia were thought to be technical violations back in the 80's.

It wasn't a violation. It was part of the treaty- we have anti-ballistic defense around Moscow, you keep your hardware in Alaska.

quote: I suppose little was made of it because all of it had a less chance of working than anything we could come up with.

It protects Moscow from simulatious strike of ten ICBMs. I doubt you have something so workable.

	08-01-2004 14:47									#303
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Only in Russia.

No, in any country (including USA) a person who betrayed this country by sharing secret information with another country, considering as traitor and criminal.

You never knew this?

	08-01-2004 14:49									#304
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You're such a rabid knob it's comical

	08-01-2004 14:51									#305
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quote: Originally posted by Serb It protects Moscow from simulatious strike of ten ICBMs. I doubt you have something so workable.

Shall we put that to the test?

	08-01-2004 14:54									#306
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quote: Originally posted by Serb No, in any country (including USA) a person who betrayed this country by sharing secret information with another country, considering as traitor and criminal. You never knew this?

Well yes. What I meant was that it isn't a crime to betray Russia anywhere but Russia.

	08-01-2004 14:56									#307
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka You're such a rabid knob it's comical

**Trying to visualize a rabid knob**

	08-01-2004 15:41									#308
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Oi da ladno, kogo by oni tam spasli. Nu nemogli nikakie NATO'vzi tam nikogo spasti, prosto potomu, chto oni by nikogda vnutr' ne popali. Chtoby popast' nado bylo sostykovat'sya so shluzom hvostovogo oseka, a diametr etoi durki u nashih lodok i u nato'vskih lodok raznui. Edinogo mirovogo standarta v etom plane eshe ne sushestvuyet, poetomu ot inostrannyh spasateley- tolku nikakogo.

You never know until you try. you can make some "pribumbas" out of rubber in order to fit in no time. It just breaks my heart remembering all these wives and mothers and children weeping their eyes out. There's something special about grieving Russian women.

	08-01-2004 15:51									#309
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Shall we put that to the test?

You never had balls for that. What makes you think you have them now?

	08-01-2004 15:59									#310
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You never had balls for that. What makes you think you have them now?

I have the balls. I'd be surprised if your missles could still get off the ground.

	08-01-2004 16:01									#311
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I have the balls.

Congratulations!

	08-01-2004 16:04									#312
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The Finnish sniper armed with 8.6 TaK 2000 sniper rifle. Deadly.

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	08-01-2004 16:07									#313
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Finnish Ghetto Raiders. Deadly.

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	08-01-2004 16:09									#314
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Drunk commies try to bring it... but lose.

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	08-01-2004 16:10									#315
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quote: Originally posted by Saras You never know until you try. you can make some "pribumbas" out of rubber in order to fit in no time. It just breaks my heart remembering all these wives and mothers and children weeping their eyes out. There's something special about grieving Russian women.

As for "pribumbases", you know, rubber it's not a proper material. Kursk laid below 100+ meters of water. The pressure would simply destroy it, esp. consider the temperature of water. To bring NATO's life saving equipment and Russian life saving equipment to the same standard requires a lot of time. It can't be done within few days. The operation was extremly dangerous even with sandartized euipment (when both enterance to resque chamber of Kursk and enterance to resque bridge (damn, I don't know English word for this thing) of resque sub have the same diameter). Even if NATO's resque equipment was somehow adopted for Russian standard, I highly doubt any NATO's sailor would risk his neck and enter this untested, just modified equipment.

	08-01-2004 16:12									#316
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militarism sucks

but nice pics pekka

	08-01-2004 16:14									#317
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I have the balls. I'd be surprised if your missles could still get off the ground.

Then come and get us. I'm sure you will be surprised.

	08-01-2004 16:15									#318
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius militarism sucks

Who let the girl in?

	08-01-2004 16:16									#319
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112mm Apilas, ready to destroy freedom oppressor tanks. Deadly.

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	08-01-2004 16:18									#320
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Well yes. What I meant was that it isn't a crime to betray Russia anywhere but Russia.

But you can't betray Russia if you're not Russian.
As well as I can't betray USA, because I'm not American.

	08-01-2004 16:22									#321
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Even if NATO's resque equipment was somehow adopted for Russian standard, I highly doubt any NATO's sailor would risk his neck and enter this untested, just modified equipment.

Obviously you were never in the Navy. A sailor will risk himself for another sailor (even a Russian) in an emergency such as this. For us this transcends political concerns.

	08-01-2004 16:24									#322
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Then come and get us. I'm sure you will be surprised.

I like it better when they try to fight back.

	08-01-2004 16:26									#323
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quote: Originally posted by Serb But you can't betray Russia if you're not Russian. As well as I can't betray USA, because I'm not American.

I still have to salute the courage of the Russians who stand up for what is right despite their country's beliefs.

	08-01-2004 16:30									#324
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Who let the girl in?

After all this talk about your superior equipment tell me how that west german guy was able to land at the red square despite your 'we take over the world with these'-air defences

	08-01-2004 16:35									#325
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Obviously you were never in the Navy. A sailor will risk himself for another sailor (even a Russian) in an emergency such as this. For us this transcends political concerns.

You're right I never was in the Navy, but one thing is to risk your life for someone and another thing is to commit suicide for someone.

	08-01-2004 16:38									#326
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I like it better when they try to fight back.

Try it, we will fight back...even more...actually, we will bury you.

	08-01-2004 16:38									#327
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Nah Rooskies have good air defense.. it's a fact. That's about only thing I'm willing to admit. Good air defense and good fighters, though I say the pilots are not the best because of the lack of flying hours. Good planes, good air defense. But that takes you somewhere already.

	08-01-2004 16:42									#328
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quote: Originally posted by laurentius After all this talk about your superior equipment tell me how that west german guy was able to land at the red square despite your 'we take over the world with these'-air defences

It's a long story. He was tracked, but wasn't shot down. If we would shot him down what you'll be saying now? that evil Russkies killed another innocent soul?
Anyhow our air defence was greatly improved because of this case. Thanks to this fellow... ... don't remember his name.

	08-01-2004 16:48									#329
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You're right I never was in the Navy, but one thing is to risk your life for someone and another thing is to commit suicide for someone.

The concept of honor appears to be lacking in Russia.

	08-01-2004 16:49									#330
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I still have to salute the courage of the Russians who stand up for what is right despite their country's beliefs.

Do you equally salute the Americans who do the same?