27-12-2003 21:45									#61
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The Maus.

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	27-12-2003 21:58									#62
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The AN/VRC-97 (the Green Monster)

For the majority that don't know what that is, it's an 84 pound cell phone that the U.S. Army still uses. There's nothing that says lets create pointless labour by using outdated equipment because manpower is cheaper then equipment like the AN/VRC-97

	27-12-2003 22:05									#63
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The B-2 Spirit Bomber



Unrefueled range of 6,000 miles, maximum altitude of 50,000 feet and a 40,000 pound payload. Inflicting the wrath of God across the globe.

	27-12-2003 22:06									#64
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Bush = God?

	27-12-2003 22:59									#65
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Ah, nevermind.

	27-12-2003 23:03									#66
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Here are some more sexy beasts.

	28-12-2003 09:35									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 What do you think is the baddest ass piece of military hardware? I am.

quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten The American Soldier

Just the point I was trying to make. I'm part of the team on the cover. Anyone else out there part of the team stand up and take a bow.

	28-12-2003 10:34									#68
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A spearman, fortified on a mountain.

	28-12-2003 10:56									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Sava yeah, the tank is phat... the trebuchet is all right... I just saw one of Conquest on the history channel, so I'm not that WOWED by it.. but that pop gun thing? totally gay

IIRC, it was Alexandria or someplace in that vicinity that had special counter-battery trebuchets mounted on towers on the city walls. These had 65 foot plus cantilevered arms, and they could put a 100 lb projectile well within 100 feet accuracy at a range of about two miles, and do it repeatedly at a few rounds per minute.

Needless to say, that would be rather discouraging for any poor slobs trying to maneuver any type of siege engines within range of the city walls.

	28-12-2003 10:56									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I guess putting Bush's face on things is what passes for comedy in Russia... You guys need Yakov Smirnoff back.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA, BUSH PUTS FACE ON YOU!

	28-12-2003 11:19									#71
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Say what you want but what good has most of the former East Bloc crap in this thread done? If it were so awesome I would've expected Serbia and Iraq to do a little better than they did.

"What is the sword compared to the hand that wields it? Or the mind?" Thulsa Doom - Conan The Barbarian

	28-12-2003 11:26									#72
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ANYTHING from The Punisher Weapon Systems... PWS RULES!.. depends what's your choice of weapons... Shotgun From Hell, The Sleep Watcher, Susie Q, Walls of Trust, Black Betty, Shrapnel Shower, Bottoms Up, The Back Bone or The Attacking Door.... or perhaps it's the new designs that are coming up.. who knows.. customized weapons for any kind of troops. Everything else is crap.

	28-12-2003 12:02									#73
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The B-52, projected to still be useful in 2040's (on a show on it's history on the History Channel). Serb must want his ass stuffed with some napalm if he thinks his punny Rooskie AA guns can beat the Stratofortress.

	28-12-2003 12:09									#74
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My favorite at the moment is the Predator drone. It flies about with no pilot and shoots things. I don't have a picture of it but you might know what it looks like since it's been on the news.

When is the F-22 supposed to be entering service?

	28-12-2003 12:17									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Crimson Sunrise When is the F-22 supposed to be entering service?

Already started.

	28-12-2003 12:34									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Serb It's A-10's worst nightmare. TUNGUSKA.

As if Russia could actually afford to pay someone to drive it

	28-12-2003 12:40									#77
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Russia's secret weapon: Babushka

	28-12-2003 12:49									#78
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That hyper fast Russian torpedo, so mean it kills its own side.

	28-12-2003 12:58									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon That hyper fast Russian torpedo, so mean it kills its own side.

Oh, the supercavitating one? That would be so cool if they get it to work without killing themselves. Might actually be able to do undersea fighters if the technology is fully developed.

	28-12-2003 13:03									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Already started.

Get out! You think they'll reach Australia any time soon? Indonesia wants to buy 40 Su-30s.

	28-12-2003 13:17									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Crimson Sunrise Get out! You think they'll reach Australia any time soon? Indonesia wants to buy 40 Su-30s.

Indonesia that much of a problem over there? I didn't think they they could scratch together that many pilots good enough to fly them. Your F-15s and F-16s will wipe the floor with them. Did I mention my sister helps make the AMRAAM missles? (Yeah, I know. The thought scares me too)

	29-12-2003 08:30									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten I guess putting Bush's face on things is what passes for comedy in Russia... You guys need Yakov Smirnoff back.

I would **** her anyway. Who looks at the face??

	29-12-2003 08:32									#83
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There's nothing like having a warsbhot in the tube. Being in the middle of someone's backyard. Wathcingn them. When they don't see you. and just wating for the war to start...to kill them.

Merry Xmas. Commmie ****er.

	29-12-2003 08:32									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Odin The B-52, projected to still be useful in 2040's (on a show on it's history on the History Channel). Serb must want his ass stuffed with some napalm if he thinks his punny Rooskie AA guns can beat the Stratofortress.

My god, we finally agree on something. Definitely the B-52!

Serb, so they have finally married the ZSU-23-4 and the SA-9 into one vehicle? Congratulations! Yesterday's hardware today. Yesterday's software, tomorrow.

	29-12-2003 09:05									#85
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The Trident 2 D5 missile.

Fired from a near-undetectable launch platform with a range of over 7000 klicks and can deposit up to 8 W88 warheads with a nominal yield of 300kT in a CEP of <150m.

	29-12-2003 09:23									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Serb It's A-10's worst nightmare. TUNGUSKA.

Apache Pilot: Alright Boys, ready? Just Hover behind this hill, pop up and shoot it, ready...steady....go!

	29-12-2003 09:33									#87
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quote: Originally posted by TCO There's nothing like having a warsbhot in the tube. Being in the middle of someone's backyard. Wathcingn them. When they don't see you. and just wating for the war to start...to kill them. Merry Xmas. Commmie ****er.

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	29-12-2003 09:35									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 Indonesia that much of a problem over there? I didn't think they they could scratch together that many pilots good enough to fly them. Your F-15s and F-16s will wipe the floor with them. Did I mention my sister helps make the AMRAAM missles? (Yeah, I know. The thought scares me too)

It's true that Indonesia's training and technical know-how is lame. Nonetheless, I've been thinking about it a lot recently, and I've reached the conclusion that they're gonna be a problem.

The way I see it is: everybody over there is still furious about East Timor. Couple it with the rise of Islamic sentiment and Indonesia's history of invading neighboring countries for no apparent reason (Malaysia 1963, East Timor 1975) and you've got a powder keg.

Indonesia just bought four Su-30s and a couple of helicopters from Russia, for a total of about $100 million. This to me suggests that the military personalities who favor confrontation with the United States, Australia, and their allies are getting into the driver's seat.

Australia is still using the F-111 as the backbone of its fighter-bombers. The encouraging thing is the fact that half of Indonesia's existing navy and air force is unusable due to poor maintenance and neglect. Also, the distance factor is in Australia's favor. The Su-30 doesn't have the range to attack much further south of Brisbane, and that's assuming it can start from Irian Jaya (aka West Papua).

But I still worry about what would happen if Indonesia were to arm all the unemployed people (all 25% of its population) and send a human wave into Queensland.

	29-12-2003 09:41									#89
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You can't get your human waves to Queensland without boats and they'll all be quickly sent to the bottom in any war.

	29-12-2003 09:45									#90
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That's a good point.

I also just found this:

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/97/0801/cs5.html

It's a few years old, but even before the East Timor-related arms embargo Indonesia's air force looked pretty inferior.