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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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Originally posted by Sikander
Serb, so they have finally married the ZSU-23-4 and the SA-9 into one vehicle? |
1) Tunguska is a different vehicle equipped by different weapons.
2) Marriage happened at 70s-80s. First Tunguskas appeared in Soviet army in 1982.
3) Shilka was modernized and now can be equiped with SAMs:
 Attachment: modernized_shilka.jpg
This has been downloaded 163 time(s).
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
Yep and it would take like our weakest fighter wing under 4 seconds to obliterate those su-30s and helicopters |
You have nothing equal to SU-30. You failed to create thrust-vectoring control system for fighters.
SU-30 is the most maneuverable fighter in the world.
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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Originally posted by GePap
The US wins becuase of its electronic edge and support craft, not becuase US ariframes are any better- in fact, a Su-27 has immense power, and as an aircraft is as good, if not better than an F-15. BUt to win a fight, it is the elctronic package and a trained pilot capable of using it) that wins fights. |
Su-27 as an aircraft is better than F-15 or F-16.
The only training fight in history (iirc, in 1996 in USA) between F-15 piloted by American regular pilot vs. Su-27 piloted by Russian regular pilot ended as complete victory for Su-27.
I can check my book to find more details about this fight.
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
I don't know why I even bother with this moron, but here goes...
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The F-22 incorporates a pair of new, higher thrust-to-weight engines, the Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100, which is designed for efficient supersonic operation without afterburner (called supercruise), and with increased durability over current engines. Advanced technologies incorporated in the F119 include integrated flight-propulsion controls and two-dimensional, thrust-vectoring engine nozzles, which will give the F-22 unprecedented aircraft maneuverability. |
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...t/f-22-f119.htm
Now, let's all sit back and see what lies our little Slavic friend can cook up. |
Read it again. It says:
which will give the F-22 unprecedented aircraft maneuverability.
In other words: blah...blah...blah...IT WILL BE a best fighter in the world.
Su-30 is already in airforces of Russia, China, India and Malaysia.
Last edited by Serb on 30-12-2003 at 16:39
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Cruddy
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Originally posted by Serb
You have nothing equal to SU-30. You failed to create thrust-vectoring control system for fighters. |
Wrong. Remember a little Brit design called the Harrier? It had vectorable thrust and was so "inferior" the Russians tried to copy it - and FAILED.
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Originally posted by Serb
SU-30 is the most maneuverable fighter in the world. |
Which as you know means nothing. The fighter's maneuver factor is only one amongst many; it is important, but so are considerations like a) training of the crew) and b) quality of the weapons.
In those 2 areas, your country still has much to improve upon.
EDIT: My vote in this catergory goes to Chicken Supreme Arctic rations. The aftermath of this is so bad it should be banned under the Chem weapons treaty...
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Lord Merciless
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We all know that Russia is gonna build great piece of weapons even if their people are too poor to afford a pair of pants.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:32
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battleships, anyone?
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000
time: 06:32
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but they look cool when firing
I thought this thread was about cool looking military hardware
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Serb
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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 My source said it was accepted as standard armament of Soviet army in 1982.
EDITED: I've checked your link. It's about Tunguska-M (Modernized).
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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001
time: 11:32
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Originally posted by Vince278
We'll have to put that to the test. Who has them now?
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China, India, Greece, USA has at least a single S-300.
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Don't worry. We will.  |
Poor French.
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Thanks. Khruschev was quite a character, wasn't he? |
He was a moron, imho.
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He was a hair better than Stalin or Beria at least. My first thought on seeing the phrase was that it was (in Russian slang) similar to the American slang phrase " Yo Mama ".  |
Well, actually it's old Russian saying, not Khrushev's invention. It just means "Hold on smartass, I've something for you, something unusual, so your ass will be kicked soon". Or something like this.
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Really? I thought people in your own navy was giving it to us. I'll have to check my sources. |
Who in his straight mind will give a technology of a devastating weapon to an American?
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Why hang on to a vestige of a sad past? Your country has much to be proud of now and will have even more in the future. |
I just like this flag, that's all. It's piss-off some people here, I guess.
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