02-01-2004 02:36									#31
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker If he doesn't take a moderate stance, he'll DEFINATELY lose.

why? is Bush taking a moderate stance on anything?

	02-01-2004 02:44									#32
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker If he doesn't take a moderate stance, he'll DEFINATELY lose.

I don't believe this is true. Look at the McCain campaign last time. He's a lot like Dean, appeals to independents who dislike the mainstream party apparatus. IIRC McCain failed because the primary system shut out independent voters in key states. But if he had been the Republican nominee, he would have destroyed Gore.

Characterizing Dean as some left wing extremist isn't going to work. The only thing he is really left about is the war. He's a fiscal conservative and budget balancer. And clearly George Bush is not in a position to accuse anyone else of being fiscally irresponsible.

Depending on what happens with terrorism, it could be an interesting year.

	02-01-2004 02:45									#33
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I've been trying to make up political predictions but I can only come up with platitudes. So I'll skip straight onto the music.

Lat year's big chart news item, a US top ten consisting entirely of black musicians, will be repeated at least twice during the year, partially due to the viewing figure failure of next year's American Idol competition. In black music the biggest commercial dissapointment will be Irv Gotti's "The Inc" whose run of hits dry up. The new Eminem album is a success, although not matching his previous achievements musically or commercially.

In contrast, Sean Paul's attempt at reaching out to the western audience will bomb, except in continental europe. After the new T.O.K album reaches the top 5 of the US album charts the Jamiacan wave slowly starts to ebb out commercially and in some ways musically, after the connection between jamaica and the most popular artists is severed. Donovan "Vendetta" Bennet will produce the summer's biggest riddim, which will produce at least one minor 2005 hit in the UK. New underground things are stirring on the islands though, and a brief trend towards using Soca riddims also appears.

Screw has a minor commercial breakthrough in the US and gets a certain amount of mainstream media attention. The year's unexpected summer novelty hit is from Brazil or Detroit.

A scene appears in the summer combining last year's punkfunk with timbaland-style rhythmic eccentricity, but never achieves commercial success. There's a brief west-coast punk revival.

In the UK several fair-to-middling rap albums are released as the majors are scouring for the "next Dizzee Rascal". Miss Dynamite releases a Garage album which is quite bland, getting her labelled a "spent force".

The Talking Heads do a reunion tour.

	02-01-2004 02:44									#34
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Here's one of the threads from last year:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=73701

Here's what DRoseDARs said:

quote: 2003 Spring - US/UK war with Iraq; Saddam disappears...in a pile of rubble; Low-casuallity but devastating airwar triggers massive desertion of Iraqi military; groundwar in Baghdad costs several thousand lives on both sides plus civilians; Puppet government established until opposition parties are forced to accept US terms in 2005

	02-01-2004 02:45									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Sava you are joking, right? Clinton was extremely open with his MONSTEROUS ego. Plus, I think Dean could beat Bush in debates... only because we've had years to study what Bush says. Gore was a pud... I never though he could beat Bush in a debate. And he let the media walk all over him. People still think Gore said "I invented the internet"...

As much as I disliked Clinton, I still say he used his ego to his advantage. So much so that even though I did hate most things Clinton done, It was hard to not like him when you met him. I met him back when he was governor. And the little bastard did have a charming side to him.

If Dean wins the nomination my vote for Bush will be more of a vote against Dean, pretty much like I was voting against Gore.

If you dumbass Dems would put someone good up there, I just might vote for them. But the way it is going, it will be another vote cast for Bush..

	02-01-2004 03:20									#36
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Speaking of amazing predictions, let me quote Boris Godunov:

quote: Posted by Boris Godunov on 07-01-2003 13:38: Everyone seems to forget Howard Dean, which doesn't bode well for his candidacy. But he is the best I have seen so far.

In Sava's C'mon Dems, come up with a Bush-beater!

	02-01-2004 03:40									#37
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the afc will win the superbowl

	02-01-2004 04:11									#38
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Never!

	02-01-2004 04:15									#39
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In 2004, I will buy a used car that will have far fewer problems than the fvcked-up piece-of-sh*t I have now.

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Mr Fun will start a thread not dealing with homosexuals or the Civil War .

	02-01-2004 04:20									#41
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I have started threads on topics other than homosexuals or the Civil War.

	02-01-2004 04:30									#42
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Mr Fun will get a sense of humor

Jon Miller

	02-01-2004 04:35									#43
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Saddam Hussain will die before trail, ironically enough from CJD/BSE from eating hamburgers from the UK. GW will be a bit pissed that he didn't get to kill him but will settle for having him stuffed and hung up in the oval office.

	02-01-2004 04:37									#44
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Then again Imran, you taking cheap shots at Mr. Fun is a pretty often sight as well!

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I take cheap shots at everyone... especially those that can't take a joke... .

	02-01-2004 05:23									#46
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MtG will make several long posts about the technical details of various firearms

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How do you take out GWB? You take out Jeb Bush. How do you do that? You unleash a scandal against him, neutralising him just at the right moment.

	02-01-2004 11:45									#48
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 70% of all facilities were already built before the bid was even made BTW. what's 30% more? pfffft athens has hosted so many european and world championships this isnt that big of a deal. just some weird facilities for curling and we're set. besiiiides look at atlanta and then canada we dont have to compete with geniouses and cant be done worse than them

a) Canada?

The last Olympics we hosted was in 88

Atlanta was in 96

b) Curling is in the Winter Olympics, you nitwit Macedonian

	02-01-2004 11:54									#49
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse b) Curling is in the Winter Olympics, you nitwit Macedonian

But the Greeks will still have a mighty fine rink ready for their Olympics.

	02-01-2004 11:54									#50
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Calgary '88 was the first Winter Olympics ever to turn a profit. All of the successive ones are successful by copying how we did it.

	02-01-2004 11:56									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai But the Greeks will still have a mighty fine rink ready for their Olympics.

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New England Patriots will be in the superbowl thingy, but they'll lose it. This is the one I'm absolutely sure of because the voices told me.

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The World as we know it will end, civilization will become similar to that in the Fallout games, and I will rule a mighty empire stretching from Alaska to southern California shortly before being assassinated by some ***** who thinks hes the "president" of the "united states of america"

	02-01-2004 20:21									#54
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Athens Olympic Volleyball tournament will be targeted by terrorists (and that will give me a reason not to hate the fact I've not been able to get the damn tickets considering those damn greeks gave the majority of tickets to Germany and England which couldn't give a damn about it, while countries where Volleyball is a national sport (Serbia, Italy, Netherlands) aren't considered profitable

And I hope they put some very naughty goldfish or something like that in the waterpolo swimming pool for the same reason

	02-01-2004 21:06									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I take cheap shots at everyone... especially those that can't take a joke... .

there, ya big baby

	02-01-2004 21:14									#56
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse a) Canada? The last Olympics we hosted was in 88

He's probably thinking of the "Deadmonton" Athletics World Championships, one of the worst-arranged and worst-attended in competition's history.

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New England Patriots will win the Superbowl this year. Superbowl is always won by thug teams, and they are the ultimate thug team this year.

Patriots winning Superbowl doesn't bode well for stock market. If an AFC team does win, it should really be the Broncos.

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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless New England Patriots will win the Superbowl this year. Superbowl is always won by thug teams, and they are the ultimate thug team this year. Patriots winning Superbowl doesn't bode well for stock market. If an AFC team does win, it should really be the Broncos.

Lord Merciless, the voices in my head says you're generally on the right track but eventually wrong. New England Patriots will indeed lose the Superbowl thingy they'll surely qualify for and I'll be right here afterwards going "I told you so"

	02-01-2004 23:21									#59
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 bah just jealous cause 5 million denmark never got them while 10 million greece got them alright being the smallest country ever to get them (and twice).

coughnorwaycough

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Olympics in countries smaller than greece:

Summer:
Stockholm 1912
Antwerp 1920 (okay, about the same size)
Helsinki 1952

Winter:
St. Moritz 1928
St Moritz 1948
Oslo 1952
Innsbruck 1964
Innsbruck 1976
Lillehammer 1994

You could also arguably include Sarajevo 1984 in that list.