03-02-2004 16:55									#241
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Wait a bit.
Everyone should have a chance of more kudos by being able to guess from an early clue. Like Lemmings.

(Also gives me more time to think of one )

	03-02-2004 19:30									#242
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Hamlet?

	03-02-2004 19:37									#243
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No, and it's not Cymbeline, Measure for Measure or The Merry Wives of Windsor either! Stop naming plays!

I'm sure that they has been an Othello computer game, but apart from that then I can't think of any more Shakespearean games.

Extra points for the Best in Show fans

	03-02-2004 20:10									#244
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Time for number (2)! 1) "Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and cauldron bubble. Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt and toe of frog, Wool of bat and tongue of dog, Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting, Lizard's leg and owlet's wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble." 2) Sneakers, tricksters, fiddlers and nutjobs! (a tiny bity of poetic licence here, but since I used Shakespeare in the first clue, then I feel I'm entitled to it! ) Now I said the clues would get easy! [It is not: Cauldron, KQ3, Witch Brew, er.. Macbeth ]

I say the clues are by no means easy.

Now I'm not sure any more if it's a witch game or not.

	03-02-2004 20:37									#245
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Ultima?

	03-02-2004 20:56									#246
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Nope.
I have to admit to having changed the clue slightly - from "nutjobs" to "nutters" but this is only because it goes better with the other words in this clue.

2.5) I'll let on that the poetic licence was used with regard to "fiddlers", rather than the other words.

	04-02-2004 03:06									#247
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Archon 2?

	04-02-2004 14:50									#248
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1) "Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and owlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."

2) Sneakers, tricksters, fiddlers and nutters! (a tiny bity of poetic licence here, but since I used Shakespeare in the first clue, then I feel I'm entitled to it! )

3) "Sorry, didn't see you there. What the heck is he trying to stir up? Stop the bloody singing - it's driving me crazy!!"

[It is not: Cauldron, KQ3, Archon 2, Ultima, Arturus, Witch Brew, Trapdoor, er.. Macbeth or Hamlet ]

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	04-02-2004 15:17									#249
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Trap Door?

	04-02-2004 18:24									#250
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Simon the Sorceror?

	04-02-2004 18:32									#251
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Using the logic that totally unfairly got me my last win, Simon the Sorcerer 2?

	04-02-2004 19:02									#252
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No, nor any other Simons the Sorcerors.

At least you've all stopped guessing every game with a witch in now.

	04-02-2004 20:01									#253
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Gauntlet?

	05-02-2004 02:32									#254
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Loom?

	05-02-2004 15:19									#255
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1) "Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and owlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."

2) Sneakers, tricksters, fiddlers and nutters! (a tiny bity of poetic licence here, but since I used Shakespeare in the first clue, then I feel I'm entitled to it! )

3) "Sorry, didn't see you there. What the heck is he trying to stir up? Stop the bloody singing - it's driving me crazy!!"

4) Win the competition at Treihadwyl, and you're on your way!

[It is not: Cauldron, KQ3, Archon 2, Ultima, Arturus, Witch Brew, Trapdoor, Simon the Sorceror, Loom, Gauntlet, Bloodwych, er.. Macbeth or Hamlet ]

Last edited by duke o' york on 05-02-2004 at 19:36

	05-02-2004 19:29									#256
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Strange, would have thought that a google search for Treihadwyl would only pull up one game link, but apparently this was a popular name in quite a few games even though I've never heard of it before.

I have a feeling that I know what it is after googling. Never played it, but do remember seeing it. Since I've googled, I out of the guessing game on this one.

	05-02-2004 19:34									#257
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No - Googling only gives you two games, although they do appear to be set in the same world. I recognise the seond one, but never played it. Eye of the Beholder annoyed me, so maybe I steered clear of games like Bloodwych for a while after that.

But the graphics in my game are miles better than those in Bloodwych.

Ah.... the rivalry between Amiga and ST owners.

	05-02-2004 19:34									#258
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Don't think I've ever heard of Treihadwyl in any game I've ever played.

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	05-02-2004 19:38									#259
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Well hopefully no-one will Google for it now.

I'll give out one last clue later on, from which anyone who had any inkling of the game should be able to get it, but that's all.

Good luck!

	05-02-2004 21:17									#260
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Sod it - here's the last clue and I'll give the answer tomorrow, if required.

1) "Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,
Lizard's leg and owlet's wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble."

2) Sneakers, tricksters, fiddlers and nutters! (a tiny bity of poetic licence here, but since I used Shakespeare in the first clue, then I feel I'm entitled to it! )

3) "Sorry, didn't see you there. What the heck is he trying to stir up? Stop the bloody singing - it's driving me crazy!!"

4) Win the competition at Treihadwyl, and you're on your way!

5) This game was an unofficial "precursor" to Baldur's Gate.


Now that's easy!

[It is not: Cauldron, KQ3, Archon 2, Ultima, Arturus, Witch Brew, Trapdoor, Simon the Sorceror, Loom, Gauntlet, Bloodwych, er.. Macbeth or Hamlet ]

	05-02-2004 21:26									#261
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I have been out of this game ever since first guess... It sounds like some RPG game... and I've always hated those games...

	05-02-2004 21:32									#262
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Hey - however did you work out that it was a RPG?

Was it clue 5? Or another one?

	05-02-2004 21:40									#263
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Someone told me

	05-02-2004 21:55									#264
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Iron Throne come to mind, but I think that was a novel not a game.

	06-02-2004 02:14									#265
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So it's an AD&D game. I THINK I know which one it is too but I can't remember the name of it... It's that one with the gypsy caravan isn't it? No wait that's later.

Oh, I give up. I've googled it now.

	06-02-2004 02:32									#266
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Hmmm....i never played any of those on the amiga, but i kinda remember that there were a couple in the dragonlancer series.......

'Spear of Destiny' ?

	06-02-2004 14:28									#267
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Wasn't "Spear of Destiny" the Wolfenstein expansion?

	06-02-2004 15:39									#268
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york 5) This game was an unofficial "precursor" to Baldur's Gate.

quote: Originally posted by Buck Birdseed So it's an AD&D game.

You what?

No-one is getting anywhere, so here's yet another clue:

You played in an isometric world, both in dungeons and over the land (where armies of mutant warriors prowled), and had four characters to control. You couldn't choose the class of these characters (see clues 2 and 3 above), but could change their appearance. Fighting randomly-generated monsters and solving puzzles formed most of the game, and you had to move around the map and visit different cities with dungeons in.
There were seven (?) levels of mutant army, and it was possible to defeat the first one without even going into the first dungeon to level up, but after that they got progressively tougher.
The way of creating and casting spells is referred to in clues 1 and 3, and was very innovative for the time.
Is that enough clues for you?

Oh, and I got the game free with a subscription to Amiga Power, which wasn't a great magazine as far as the writing was concerned, but gave away the best cover disks with loads of brilliant shareware games like Tanx and IK+!

	06-02-2004 17:29									#269
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I've got it!

Never heard of it though.

Is there anyone left to guess legally?

	06-02-2004 17:34									#270
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So that's two potential guessers who have googled, but there are still more to play! Given that you know it Dr Spike, and that I don't post at the weekend, then if anyone guesses correctly while I'm not there then tell them so and the game can move on.