29-12-2000 05:50									#1
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Hey all!
I'm a newbie. Yes, yes I am. I did get to play real diplomacy a quite a few times, but never did I play it online. I am seeking for a nice GM to host a nice standard Diplomacy game, in which I will be able to survive more than a few years, with all you pro's

In other words, I seek a game for newbies. For guys who don't play so well, so that I have a chance.

Thanks! -Yoav.

	29-12-2000 19:20									#2
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Welcome aboard. There's always new games starting up. Keep checcking the threads for one, or possibly a replacement position

	30-12-2000 02:45									#3
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Hey, I didn't know there are diplomacy games here.

Cool!

Hello people. I'm also quite new to Diplomacy, so I'll be seeking newbie games as well.

One request though, could some one post an explanation on how do you actually play online? And where do you post all the messages that you have in private? E-mail?

Would appreciate help.
Thanks.

	30-12-2000 03:13									#4
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Sirotnikov: E-Mail works, as do private messages, though ICQ messages tend to be a more common form of communication. The same for actually submitting your moves to the GM.

As for exclusively newbie games, I rather doubt a new one of those will come along, but it isn't much of a problem if you join any other game starting up. Recently quite a few games that had been stalled are being seriously considered to be abandoned, so I expect there to be several new games popping up soon. In fact, if any of you are open on the 4th or 5th of January, a live-ICQ match might be held one of those days, with FTF style "negotiate now and get your moves in in 15 minutes" play.

	30-12-2000 04:03									#5
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Aw bloody hell...there was a link around here somewhere...AH! Found it!

Intro

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	30-12-2000 04:13									#6
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well, well, you newbies ....

I would be willing to GM a newbie game. On two conditions:

- you get 7 people together for a standard game.

- no NMRs. An no means no, zero, or I´ll have you roasted for breakfast


OK, who´s in?

Yoav
Sirotnikov
anyone else?

	30-12-2000 06:06									#7
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I'll play a newbie game. Lord knows I need to train some more.

	30-12-2000 09:11									#8
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Can I play?

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	30-12-2000 13:26									#9
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No, you're a DL

	30-12-2000 18:23									#10
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Oh yeah!!

I only exist because the guy at the keyboard is a moron and put in the wrong email when he changed it so he created me because my older brother (the original NB) is locked now...

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	31-12-2000 01:28									#11
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What's an MNR?

And also: please make each turn al least five days long because I would need time (I'm a very busy person you know )

	31-12-2000 01:59									#12
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I think you mean "NMR." It means:

NO MOVES RECEIVED

It's when you don't turn in your homework. GMs' get mad at you, games get held up, and all the nations' plans get screwed up. In short, don't ever NMR.

	31-12-2000 02:22									#13
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If you do set the turn time for a week or so, players will probably have enough time to send their orders.
If someone is off, or has osme connection problem or so - or from any other reason - sends no orders - his orders are counted as all STAY.

Let's agree on some other technical rules, just in case some of us have some weird versions in mind (I only know the old original version)

	31-12-2000 02:45									#14
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There's still a couple spots left in Civ Dip.... We could use a few more players.

	31-12-2000 16:30									#15
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Moves would be do every saturday 8pm GMT. ALways. Thats seven days, should be enough.

Who´s in?

Yoav
Sirotnikov
WarVoid
Napoleon

Still need three more.

And newbies: don´t worry, I´ll give you an introduction before the first moves are due

	01-01-2001 02:09									#16
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Hey !

Can I join.

I played diplomacy before (In person and a bit by E-Mail).

But I never played here.

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	01-01-2001 02:22									#17
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Are we playing on the normal European map? If so i'd like to stake my claim as Russia.

	01-01-2001 02:42									#18
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I believe it is a regular europe map.

And if we can already start claiming, I claim England.

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	01-01-2001 21:30									#19
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No need giving country prefs before we have seven people together....

Hey, Taurus, you´re from Israel? Played FTF diplomacy there? Perhaps you know Dov Kass by any chance?

	02-01-2001 00:06									#20
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Well yes, Taurus is from Israel -- and so are Sirotnikov and me. I personally do not know any Dov Kass.
>> If you guys start caliming countries, here is my preferenced order:

1. England / France
2. Austria / Russia
3. Germany
4. Ottoman / Italy

The lower the number, the more I want to be that country (obviously..)

As for the map, yes - it is the standard classics Europe map, game starting in 1901 AFAIK. If you'ld like, I can post a the rule book here. It is rather long though, be warned.

	02-01-2001 17:41									#22
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Don't know what I'm talking about... huh.. OK I meant I can translate my printed Hebrew rulebook and post it here, to prevent misunderstandings.

	02-01-2001 18:21									#23
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Better not post the rulebook here. Hasbro is known to be far from pleased whenever they find their property distributed freely on the net.

However, you can find all you need in the diplomacy magazin "The diplomatic pouch", including an introduction to the game:

FAQ: http://devel.diplom.org/Online/FAQ/rgd_faq.html

home: http://www.diplom.org/

PS: Dov Kass is a guy who plays on the main israeli Team in this years email world championship. I happen to have him stabbed and almost wiped from the board ;-)

	03-01-2001 01:40									#24
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No, I do not know any Dov whatever (I don't play diplomacy much, only with yoav, siro and some other friends - and a bit by E-Mail).

Yoav, please don't post the rule book.

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	03-01-2001 01:54									#25
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Napoleon,
What are you doing in a Newbie game, let these guys learn before they get placed with one of us, you and WarVoid have enough games with us.

	03-01-2001 03:27									#26
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But...but...but...

Damn.

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	03-01-2001 03:32									#27
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My God...Defiant...do you realize what you just said?!

I am NO LONGER A NEWBIE!!! BUT I AM A SEASONED VET!!!


MWAHAHAHAHAHA



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	04-01-2001 01:43									#28
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Napoleon, If you're not a newbie, so how come you're a settler?

	04-01-2001 01:58									#29
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Napoleon,
Anybody who took the reaming you got from Ruffhaus8 in 20th century deserves to lose his "newbie" title.

Taurus,
Napoleon had to re-register his name thus bringing him back down to set status.

	05-01-2001 01:33									#30
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O.K.

Well, what are we waiting for?

How many guys do we already have?

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