08-01-2004 04:19									#1
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In your opinion what is it and why?

I say Fallout is the bestest. I like the setting, and the guns, and the doggy, and the ladies in tight leather...er I mean the variety of armor, and the story is well written.

In a close second I would have to say Castle of the Winds, 'cause it was the first RPG I played.

	08-01-2004 04:44									#2
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Baldur's Gate 2 for story and characters and engine.
Neverwinter Nights for the editor
Pool of Radiance (the first gold box game) for getting me started.

-Jam

	08-01-2004 04:46									#3
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It'd be a tie for me:

Fallout
Morrowind

Of course they are different games. Fallout had a kick ass story and some really fun turn based combat and amazing character advancement (woo... feats!). Baldur's Gate II is closest to Fallout in that kind of RPG.

Morrowind is an entire WORLD created around you, which is out there for you to explore and dig around in. Very nicely unlinear, allowing you to go around and do what you wanted.

	08-01-2004 04:56									#4
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MORROWIND!
Nothing else can come close in the world category- , or even (IMHO) graphics-wise.

	08-01-2004 05:04									#5
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Morrowwind - the Marmite of RPGs - either you love it or you hate it. I hate it

-Jam

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I love morrowind too, but when you really look at it its too simple; the "world" is one big cut & paste dungeon crawl. And the leveling system is the same system thats been used for eons now; hack hack hack ding "ooh time to level up!"
but when you play the main quest for the first time and finish it you really think its a great game

	08-01-2004 05:23									#7
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I still like Might and Magic VI the best and Diablo II second.

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Morrowwind - the Marmite of RPGs - either you love it or you hate it. I hate it -Jam

I'm sure you've explained numerous times-- buy why? I find it a remarkably engrossing game.

	08-01-2004 07:25									#9
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ultima 4
might and magic 3
wizardry 7

all of these for the same reason: you are given a set of behaviors to follow, and it is your choice to follow them or not. except for w7, you were not directly punished for not following the rules or making a mistake here or there.

	08-01-2004 07:47									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us but when you play the main quest for the first time and finish it you really think its a great game

Or the 9th, in my case.

	08-01-2004 08:05									#11
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quote: Or the 9th, in my case

how can you play any RPG that many times over?

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I consider the Thief games RPGs. So they're my vote. Closely followed by Deus Ex.

Morrowind had promise, but it ultimately failed to live up to it. Not a bad game though.

It's problems (for me) included:

Rotten performance on a decent machine.

The old 'boring melee combat' versus 'over-elaborate magic system' problem.

Easy to build an uber-character.

Utterly joyless overland combat, falling firmly into the 'rats and bats' enemy school.

Pointlessly complex level design. Whoever designed Vivec should be shot. I didn't buy the game to run up and down ramps.

Easy potion abuse.

	08-01-2004 08:48									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us quote: Or the 9th, in my case how can you play any RPG that many times over?

Easily If I like a game, I can play it many many times over.
In fact, replayability is a must for all of my games. 10-hour games just aren't acceptable.

	08-01-2004 11:57									#14
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Probably Morrowind, closely followed by Star Control II: The Ur-Quan Masters. Of course this is RPGs only, I have many more prefered strategy games, such as Alpha Centauri.

	08-01-2004 12:38									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us quote: Or the 9th, in my case how can you play any RPG that many times over?

I have played Might and Magic 6/7/8 more than dozen times each.

	08-01-2004 12:45									#16
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Diablo 2, though I'm suprised it does not count as a FPS.

	08-01-2004 13:26									#17
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quote: Originally posted by da_hal wizardry 7

Played the last one (8)?

	08-01-2004 15:51									#18
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quote: how can you play any RPG that many times over?

I've played BG2 at least 30 times. I'm just mad, I guess.

-Jam

	08-01-2004 23:29									#19
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quote: I've played BG2 at least 30 times. I'm just mad, I guess.

well maybe Im the freak then, I cant play the same storyline more than 3 or 4 times before I have to strain myself to complete it again. It just gets too easy and boring.

	08-01-2004 23:51									#20
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I completely and absolutely agree with Imran.

Morrowind and Fallout, for the reasons he stated

	08-01-2004 23:51									#21
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Ultima VII. It will always be special for me.

	09-01-2004 00:04									#22
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what are the ultima games like? I'd assume that Ultima Online is completely different, no?

	09-01-2004 00:52									#23
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Computer role playing games suck.

The best roleplaying game ever IMHO was Games Workshop's now discontinued Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.

	09-01-2004 01:55									#24
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What is this "Fallout"?

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Isn't Warhammer going MMORPG?

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Warhammer FRP - nice rules, nice world, shitty company (boo, boo)

-Jam

	09-01-2004 02:59									#27
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quote: What is this "Fallout"?

Only the greatest RPG experience ever .

http://www.interplay.com/fallout/

	09-01-2004 03:04									#28
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Actually, I preferred Fallout2. Fallout1 was great but way too buggy (now, I may have not played it with the latest patches)

	09-01-2004 08:07									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: What is this "Fallout"? Only the greatest RPG experience ever . http://www.interplay.com/fallout/

That website wasn't very useful.

	09-01-2004 08:23									#30
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Fallout is a Role Playing Game in Isometric view (à la Civ2) that is set in a post-apocalyptic world.

The perks of the game are:
-an exceptional character development, that is extremely deep yet simple to use.
- a great, original and humorous atmosphere
- Plenty of different ways to solve problems, and even to win the main quest
- An immense quantity of complete dialogues

This comes from a Morrowind lover: Get Fallout Tass. It's an order. The RPG experience is different than Morrowind, but Fallout has strengths Morrowind simply cannot have (but it works the other way around too: Fallout is absolutely not as immersive as Morrowind)