17-01-2004 02:37									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Bloody Monk Unless I'm missing something, the Awful Tower is the only WOW that can be owned by 'our' civ. Monk

you are perfectly right
I guess I shall spend the week-end at The Institute, singing the rules in order to remember at least the melody.

	17-01-2004 02:40									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Bloody Monk Looking at the save, one would think that the build order in Nobath should be changed so the city doesn't disappear. Monk

This was a dirty trap for my successor
I guess he will thank you.

	17-01-2004 02:40									#33
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Nah, La Fayette is a rapid player, so we are excited about the thought of getting the Silver Spire before 1000 AD!

And Marco's right afterwards (and then DESTROYED) may be a great way to rapidly grow our dis-reputation.

	17-01-2004 02:48									#34
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BTW Monk, I like very much your Awful Tower.
It reminds me of an American visitor asking me 'chaaeeempsss Iiiiiilaisiiiiis ?' (took me about ten seconds to be able to reply).

	17-01-2004 03:44									#35
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette This was a dirty trap for my successor I guess he will thank you.

Sorry, Old Man. Didn't realize that was part of the game this time.

BTW, if you want a good laugh, go back to page one and check out the third post.

Re: Awful Tower
It is only awful as to its meaninglessness as a WOW. The RL Tower is awesome.

Monk

	18-01-2004 13:53									#36
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as they say on the OT, 'splode Paris, early and often

	18-01-2004 16:26									#37
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Shouldn't that be 'splore Paris ?

	18-01-2004 21:51									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley as they say on the OT, 'splode Paris, early and often

... probably green with envy
They should follow SG[1]'s advice and 'splore instead.

	19-01-2004 14:17									#39
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Well I for one love Paris in the springtime, and every other time for that matter. (Well, apart from the early hours of the morning on the Rue St Denis. Can get a bit intimidating, especially if you have no interest in the products being advertised).

Besides, we don't need Trade for Marco's, but for caravans! We're going to have to get the benefits of all our favourite wonders by other means, and we'll need loads of cash and science to do it. Although we could carefully select our time to capture Leo's to get the most out of it, but I'll leave that until nearer the time.

	19-01-2004 23:37									#40
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It's the first round, play should be fast. We haven't even met any civs to dirty our hands on yet~~~

Who's turn? Stu?

	20-01-2004 12:15									#41
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Oops - sorry didn't realize I was up - have d/led - will go play in the mud pit asap ...

Stu

	21-01-2004 15:15									#42
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Dirty Game - 20 turns

1050BC = as LF remarks the Settler coming on line in NoBath cannot be saved - change to Temple and rush; Mudville starts Temple; hit Enter

Hey - we're on a 'ribbon world' a zillion squares E-W and about 25 N-S -- must have ships!
Strategy debate - my gut feeling is to sleaze like mad and make DaveV proud, but experience indicates that this is a sure route to Succession Game unpopularity - yeah - go for it Stu !!
--- so will temporise, lots of cities, but each with a potential for growth to size eight, build some white goods mainly temples at this stage and start a few cities growing so as to support our fleet which will now be needed in addition to the army -- nasty one OnS! :doffs hat:

1000BC = Temple in NoBath;
0975BC = Bronze Working->Currency;
0950BC = Barbarian Archer dispatched by Chariot;
0925BC = WhalePoo founded;
0900BC = Much navel contemplation
0875BC = More of the same
0850BC = Snore
0825BC = Snore
0800BC = Temple in Dung City; Currency->Trade;
0775BC = Dirthole founded;
0750BC = Back to sleep
0725BC = Muddhole reaches size 3, rushes Temple; Hut reveals the city of Lost Soap;
0700BC = Temple in Muddhole
0675BC = Snore
0650BC = Snore
0625BC = Snore
0600BC = Trade->Mysticism; Rubbish Tip founded;
0575BC = Snore
0550BC = Muddville now size 6
0525BC = the end of a rather uneventful reign

Growth & Expansion were my watchwords - I guess we are now entering the era of trade, trade, trade -- go for it guys.

Attachment: di_b525.zip
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

	21-01-2004 15:19									#43
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Zedd, Zedd - take your twenty!

I didn't even open the box to my computer last night, so will have to set it all up this evening and make sure everything is running all right before installing Civ 2.

Will be back soon looking for saves to play....

	21-01-2004 16:39									#44
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1) Old n Slow
2) JRabbit
3) Six Thousand Year Old Man
4) La Fayette
5) SG [1]
6) Zedd
7) Duke of York
8) debeest

	21-01-2004 22:03									#45
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Good begining, Stu!!

It's boring to pump out settlers and plop new towns but it seems the only way for this game. And since they can grow to size 8, who can see this as a sleeze?? There will be power in numbers. And given the map, cities on the southern and east, west coasts might be best. This will be an interesting game.

Monk

	22-01-2004 13:55									#46
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Unfortunately we'll have to build cathedrals in all of these towns to keep 'em happy, but that's the way this game goes. So we're going to need loads of cash!

Caravans?

	23-01-2004 18:20									#47
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Sorry for the delay, I've been out of the office most of this week, Will DL the save and post this weekend.

	23-01-2004 19:00									#48
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Sounds great!
I was a bit worried that you might have already played and were posting the save. I'm up next, and already have the Sailing save, the MGE no CD patch, the Civ 2.42 patch and WinZip (for good measure) to take home this weekend.

Good luck with the dirty business of taking over the world Zedd!

	26-01-2004 17:57									#49
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My apologies everyone, i was very Ill this weekend and did not play my rounds. I am still under the weather but returning to work and Will play tonight and post bright and early in the morning.

	26-01-2004 18:26									#50
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As your doctor, I prescribe a heavy dose of Civ.
Nothing like world domination to make you feel better...

	27-01-2004 15:35									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Zedd Will play tonight and post bright and early in the morning.

'tis a little dull here, but sadly no longer early

	27-01-2004 16:25									#52
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This side of the Pennines is very sunny, but we're expecting snow this afternoon. I can't play tonight if Zedd does post, but hopefully can fit it in tomorrow night.

	27-01-2004 20:23									#53
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Not so bright and not so early but here is the save.
RL emergency caused me to interupt my play after 13 turns so it is now 225BC, and we need some growth.

Log to follow

Attachment: di_b225.sav
This has been downloaded 6 time(s).

	27-01-2004 20:37									#54
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I've dowloaded the save, and ought to be able to play tomorrow evening. If anyone fancies having a quick peek at the game, then please tell me if the file doesn't load. I won't be playing this evening, but once I go home tomorrow, won't be able to come back to the site if it doesn't work.

	27-01-2004 20:48									#55
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Plus three dirtholes and plus three techs, if I read the save right. Our Zedd was busy!!

The log should be interesting....

Monk

	27-01-2004 21:08									#56
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525bc
Zedd looks down from his Keep and takes stock of the dirty situation. We have a reasonable number of cities, small amount of cash, and mainly just warriors to defend ourselves. At least we only have the occasional wild buffalo to defend against. He decides to grow city sizes as well as add a couple cities to this empire, then spots something green on the horizon and begins to imagine he can walk across water.

500bc
French build Colosus
Disorder in Dung City and Dust Bunny,

475bc
Beads Van to Dirthole 12G
We discover Mysticism ,Research options are Horseback Riding, Masonry, Pottery, Warrrior Code. All seem a little useless but harbors could come in handy >>POTTERY

450bc and 425bc move units

400bc
Chinese Build Hanging Gardens
Scum City founded, I had to decide between getting a coal special or having ocean access, I chose the ocean view.

375bc
Disorder in Slime Ball and No Shower, rush temple for Slimeball.

350bc
Aztechs build lighthouse No shower remains in disorder

325bc
Hut gives Map Making, and Zedd’s eyes turn toward the Sea.
Adjusted taxes to 2.2.6 to allow support for new temple in slimeball, $5, $4 support, 9 Turns.

300bc
Two Barb Archers land near Lost Soap.
Mongol Trireme Sails by Dust bunny
Whale Poo and Slime Ball changed to Trireme
Chariot from No Bath departs to assist the warrior in Lost Soap
The cities of Sleeze Bag and Deceit are founded.

275bc
Sleeze Bag and Deceit both go into disorder.
Its been a while since I’ve played Diety.

250
Pottery Discovered, Choices are Warrior Code, Horseback Riding, or literacy
I choose Literacy so we can try Philosophy next go ‘round.
Muddville and lost soap build Settlers, Whale poo builds trireme.
Chariot kills Barb archer outside Lost soap, second archer flees for his life.

Zedd, overly eager to ride in the new Trireme slips on the stairs and looses conciousness. It will be some time before he is able to assume leadership again, at least until medicine is discovered.


I was unsuccessfull in growing our treasury or cities but I did get a few settlers built and a few terrain improvements started. Once those have finnished we have to worry about the disorder. Most cities now have 2 warriors to keep workers in the fields and there is not much room in the treasury for adding temples. I was really gunning for Philosophy to give us a tech jump then maybe we can switch to a more colective state to fund our temples.

Last edited by Zedd on 27-01-2004 at 21:14

	27-01-2004 22:09									#57
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Boats!! Let the expansion flow forth into all the world.

There may be a better way, but the only cure that I have found to constant disorder problems is checking the attitude screen before the end of every turn. Once I get past 5-6 cities, I can't remember otherwise.

Monk

	27-01-2004 22:20									#58
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Thank you Zedd - doesn't sound too bad

	27-01-2004 23:05									#59
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Unusually high incidence of disorder. I guess filth = chaos...

Can it be that the Great Age of Philosophy has not yet occured in some miserable backwater AI civ????

Great to have boats -- opens the doors to dishonorable relations and overseas trade.

	28-01-2004 13:58									#60
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Oboy. Dishonorable relations. I can hardly wait. [rubs hands together gleefully]