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Urban Ranger is offline Urban Ranger
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Starchild: Sorry, you're still not making sense to me. Are you insisting that you should have the power to surprise god? JFK still has free will in your example, he just has no particular reason to decide to behave differently unless you intervene somehow. You seem to be describing a function of time more than anything else. Is this like that "if a tree falls in the woods" question? I never got that either.


He was saying that omniscience is incompatible with freewill.

Briefly, omniscience dictates the actions of everybody, thing, and subatomic particles in this universe until The End. There is no freewill -- and there never will be -- if there was/is/will be a being with omniscience.

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Under that logic, there is no disincentive to sin. Either the apparently sinful actions are divenely guided (and therefore not a sin), or the sinning individual is already inevitably damned so further sins make no difference.

That logic caused the formation of some rather murderous cults in medieval times.

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and i dare anyone to find an ethnic minority who is a satanist...


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you all know **** like this is a white thing. you never see no black or spanish people doing this kind of ****.


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i showed that to a few people and the reaction was all the same... what the hell kind of class is that? what could you possibly learn from that? what could you learn that had any use? is this just one of those anthropological things where sheltered white intellectuals 'study' the fascinating species of 'brown humans'.


I want to live in Speer's world!!

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