30-01-2004 01:44									#1
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Monkey Settler has moved North - heading for the silks.

	30-01-2004 01:48									#2
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Oh, I don't ****ing think so!

Ok, the question is do we try to block them? Or do we let them go, and send the settler we just built to the spot where our warrior is fortified on the hill down there?

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 01:51									#3
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I expect they'll go to Corinth-112 to build their city. Hopefully they won't see Corinth-3 from there.

Shall we move our Spear 8 from the forest?

	30-01-2004 01:53									#4
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I say move our regular warrior 2, I wanna see what's south of there.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 01:56									#5
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If they're going to build on Corinth112, we cannot block them. They are 1 turn away, and all of our units are 2 turns away. EDIT: plus, looking at last turn's screenshot, they had a regular warrior where their settler team is now, so he is almost certainly now at Corinth112.

So I say we let 'em build the damn city and deal with it later. It's a good excuse to build a southern town, by the way.

We could send the Stooges south, to continue Python's road...

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:03									#6
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Hmm, where the heck is the Frumpy?

* Arrian panics

	30-01-2004 02:03									#7
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Yes, it does make it easier to build the southern city. We could throw the spear in Corinth onto Corinth-12 to have a look.

	30-01-2004 02:10									#8
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Frumpy's there, one pixel out of shot at Plymouth-233.

	30-01-2004 02:13									#9
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* Arrian 's heartrate returns to normal.

Right, so, what do you think? Should we up the ante in this game of border brinksmanship? Or do we lay low?

The lack of roads south of the gold hill is a problem. How long until the Stooges can move?

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:26									#10
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The Stooges finish in 2 turns - probably in stages - (one started last turn). Then 4 turns after that they could get to the tile that needs roading (2 rivers).

We still have a turn to decide on the settler, but we can send a spear to Corinth-12 now.

	30-01-2004 02:28									#11
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Spear from gold hill to Corinth 12... ok, fine by me.

Reg warrior south.

Is there a spear in Swindon? If yes, bring it south.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:28									#12
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Still no map from Monkey, btw. They can't be trying it on - there's only 1 tile we've not seen, though perhaps their tile imps would be worth seeing.

	30-01-2004 02:33									#13
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Ok, I guess they don't want a map trade. Fine by me!

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:35									#14
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OK, spear from Swindon south. Spear from Corinth to Cor-21, nothing seen. They might prefer Corinth-111 actually - building on the silk itself. We could get there first.

Worker-cat or cat-worker in Izz? It's size 5, 10f. Cat first gets more commerce, I think.

	30-01-2004 02:38									#15
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Size5, 10f...

T92: 15f, 10s (Izz can get 10spt at size5 while still pulling in +5fpt, right?). edit: only needs 9spt, because growth will bring in +1, for 10.
T93: Size6, cat complete. Worker.
T94: 15f, worker complete, size5. Start settler.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:41									#16
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Swindon got 3 extra shields from the growth turn. 8 shields in box, 8spt, but needs a taxman. 20% lux is not worth it, we lose 10g.

Taxman from hill takes it to 5spt.

	30-01-2004 02:47									#17
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Izz builds settler

Swindon size 6


Remaining Stooges road.

NW1 roads

ES roads

NW5 mines Izz-2

Settler to Swindon-8. A decision can be made for south or west next turn.

Burundy gang road

Scout-2 moves 87

Reg Archer moves 3

2HP lost but no promo from barb. 25g from camp, 141g total.

FP moves 2

Cubmaster moves north

Reg warrior moves 3

Other horse moves 66

JD roads

	30-01-2004 02:49									#18
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Ack.

What do you say to short rushing a worker in Swindon 8g), switching the build to a spearman, and setting it to 5spt?

With that new mine, and the irrigation at Sil9, is there any WF shuffling that would keep Sil at 10spt, but benifit nearby cities?

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:53									#19
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That idea of adding two workers to Silesia is good - bringing that up to size 6, together with Burundy's growth in a few turns should justify the 20% lux rate.

	30-01-2004 02:55									#20
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I was just gonna add 1, actually, but we could add two... though we need those workers to actually work.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:57									#21
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We could also consider building 1 worker out of Swindon after its next build completes. Since the 6th pop point is doing very little for us right now, I'd say it's a good move.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:57									#22
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1st in Pop, GNP, Productivity.
2nd in Annual Income
3rd in land, mfg,
4th in literacy

	30-01-2004 02:58									#23
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What do you think of the shortrush/switch to spear idea for Swindon?

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 02:59									#24
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Right, worker out of Swindon is probably a better use of that pop point.

	30-01-2004 03:01									#25
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Yes, let's do the spear via short-rush in Swindon. I'll look at the Silesia WF...

	30-01-2004 03:03									#26
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The first build in CoS after the library completes = worker, btw. Same principle. 9 turns to the lib, so 11 until the worker... T102.

Hmm, given that, I'd say that the worker currently roading the mined grassland on CoS's side of the River of Snakes should probably come back across when it's done. We need workers in the south, badly.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 03:04									#27
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Sorry to be hitting you with all this stuff... it's just I can't see it for another 1 1/2 hrs.

-Arrian

	30-01-2004 03:06									#28
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If we used a mined hill in Silesia and ran a -1f deficit (12 in box) we can get an extra 2s in Coventry (-1 to crptn,) for CH/Lib in 3, growth in 4 instead of the other way round (growth in 3, build in 4).

We were going to wait and see after growth but I'm inclined to say 'lets take the library in 3'. We need to open our culture account.

	30-01-2004 03:07									#29
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No, it's good.

	30-01-2004 03:10									#30
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OK, Swindon is now set up for a Spear in 2, when Ciao finishes too and we'll be a six-spear civ.