04-02-2004 10:04									#121
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If any of you aspire to be gentlemen you should never hit women.

It reminds me though that years ago, but not so long ago, it was quite common in Hollywood films for women to get a slap from the heroe.

Which makes me wonder how much domestic violence relates back to Hollywood's bad example.

	04-02-2004 10:14									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse If any of you aspire to be gentlemen you should never hit women.

Even when they come at you with baseball bats?

	04-02-2004 10:30									#123
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A gentleman would fend but not strike

	04-02-2004 12:01									#124
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Gender equality all the way.

It's common to say "you should not hit women because they are weaker". Well, a small, muscleless guy, is as weak as the regular woman, nobody consider it outrageous to slap him if he's annoying.

I'm a practical guy. I don't hit until I have to, but I don't really care about the gender of the target once I have to hit.

From my experience, most women/girls that like to act rough, do it because they think they will get away with it. I had several friends who did it, either for fun, either to look tough.
Well, you answer rough when she plays rough (I don't mean punching in the face, here, I mean just a slap back if she slaps, or holding and twisting her wrist if she's annoying with poking/punching), and now she remembers you won't accept being bullied. Works great

	04-02-2004 12:04									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Akka Gender equality all the way.

That would be fine if there was muscle equality

You are no gentleman sir.

	04-02-2004 12:08									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse A gentleman would fend but not strike

I won't strike either, I just throw them around

	04-02-2004 12:09									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I know this girl, she's a friend of mine, and sometimes we go clubbing together. So one time, we are dancing, and she starts hitting me, like punching and stuff, and not only that this is quite embarassing, and annoying, it also hurts. So I ask her to stop, she doesn't reply, and after a few seconds, she does that again, so I ask her again, after a few seconds, she slaps me on the face, I slap her back, instinctively. She's somewhat shocked, and is insulted. I walk to her, and tell her that though I am sorry that things got this way, I am certainly not ashamed of my actions, and she should've known better. To make a long story short, she has admitted she was wrong.

You Ninny - she likes you - she's trying to get your attention. It's a sexual thing - like the way boys hit girls they like in the arm and don't know why. Could be sub conscious longing. She probably doesn't know it herself.

I've seen couples like this before - it can be okay or it can be a pretty toxic relationship.

	04-02-2004 12:12									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse That would be fine if there was muscle equality

There isn't muscle equality between men either. I think I used the example of the small frame to highlight this point.
It's not because you're stronger you have to endure the stupidity of others (of course you should not force your own stupidity on others neither).

The one who is wrong is the one who initiate the agression, not the one who comes out victorious.

quote: You are no gentleman sir.

I am, but only to ladies

	04-02-2004 12:49									#129
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quote: You Ninny - she likes you - she's trying to get your attention. It's a sexual thing - like the way boys hit girls they like in the arm and don't know why. Could be sub conscious longing. She probably doesn't know it herself.

A) No. There are reasons why I can say rather certainly that this is not the case.
B) God, I hope not.

	04-02-2004 12:51									#130
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I think Horsie is right.

	04-02-2004 12:53									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka No I'm not violent. I have never fought in a bar. I have been provoked several times in bars, but I have always managed to get out without a fight. I have even had a guy put his hand on my throat and other hand in the fist, and able to persuade him to take it off without fighting. It helps if you know how to fight, how it feels to get hit hard in the face, and how to return the favour and rumble. Why? Because you're more confident in situation where you might have to protect youself. You might be little scared still, but you have been there before, and you know the other guy can't hurt you like you have been hurt before, by a guy who can fight and hits you in the face on regular basis. So, you can be confident and relaxed and say what you think which should be 'Come on man let go, I don't want to embarras you in front of your girlfriend' or something creative. It's about control. If you look like you can fight, talk like you can fight (not trash talking, but confident), the other guy will give it a thought and you can try to persuade. As long as you're not whining about it and crawling 'I do everything so you let me go', not a way to go. That says you're an easy fight to him.

It wouldn't surprise me if you sat in your Finnish basement all day writing up new ways to kill people.
"You should know how to inject him with botulism so you'll be more confident....!"

	04-02-2004 12:57									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar It wouldn't surprise me if you sat in your Finnish basement all day writing up new ways to kill people. "You should know how to inject him with botulism so you'll be more confident....!"

Well, I do agree with Pekka : when you are confident, others are much less prone to initiate agression against you.

I don't know how it works, but the fact is : when someone means what he says, and is confident, you do feel it.

	04-02-2004 13:15									#133
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Grab the wrists.

	04-02-2004 15:42									#134
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Akka, exactly. Many of these aggressors, who come to look for a fight are scum, just like robberers.. they look for the easy victim. However, if you look confident, it's more likely they'll go for someone else than you. Only few people want their butts kicked, so while it might not save you, it puts the odds working for you.

UR, cops? If there are cops next to you, then they handle it and you don't have to hit anyone, right?

	04-02-2004 16:07									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Akka, exactly. Many of these aggressors, who come to look for a fight are scum, just like robberers.. they look for the easy victim. However, if you look confident, it's more likely they'll go for someone else than you. Only few people want their butts kicked, so while it might not save you, it puts the odds working for you.

Yup.
The fun thing is, you don't even have to really be able to fight back. You just have to believe you are. Works as well