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Liberal and defender of freedoms for the people
Oct 1999
time: 05:33
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Here's some recurrent news stories you'll see:
"Studies show that men don't go to the doctor nearly as often as women. Experts warn that men stay away from the doctor only because of masculine stereotypes against admitting weakness, and that more work needs to be done to get men to shed their macho posturing and to become more willing to listen to the possible warning signs of illness."
You won't ever see the same story reported this way:
"Studies show that men don't go to the doctor nearly as often as women. Experts warn that women are going to the doctor with trivial ailments and hysterical attention-seeking behavior, and that more work needs to be done to get women to stop imposing such enormous, and pointless, burdens on our healthcare system.
Or:
"Management experts say that women and men communicate differently in the workplace. Women tend to adopt a much more personal view of workplace relations and communicate in an emotional, rather than strictly factual, fashion. Experts warn that for men to keep up with women in the workplace, they need to adapt from their cold, impersonal, factual approach to management and become more concerned with their co-worker's feelings and inner motivations."
But not:
"Management experts say that women and men communicate differently in the workplace. Women tend to adopt a much more personal view of workplace relations and communicate in an emotional, rather than strictly factual, fashion. Experts warn that billions of dollars of productivity are being lost to women's catfights caused by dragging personal issues and concerns into the workplace, gossiping on the phone, and by their inability to communicate simple concepts and instructions without half an hour of chitchat and meandering around the issues."
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002
time: 05:33
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That's because with the former, the problem is men not going enough, not women going too much. The latter you have a point, but the language of the second is far more emotive. However in terms of productivity, polite and friendly communications work better in most situations than cold, hard factual relations.
The reason you won't here them reported the other way is because it is a problem that men won't go to the doctor when they're ill, and that for smooth, stress free and productive management, polite and personal relations work better than cold, hard factual ones.
I dislike feminism too. I think they want positive discrimination and I abhore discrimination of any kind, based on gender. However those examples you cite are awful.
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Cruddy
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Originally posted by Sava
man haters aren't feminists... they are MAN HATERS...
why can't people understand this? |
Because the "feminists" I've observed DO NOT CARE about the males. At best we're ignored. At worst, we are portrayed as evil, violent and selfish.
Call me over sensitive - but if "feminists" gave a sh1t about equality, they wouldn't call themselves feminists, they would call themselves egalitarians.
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Cruddy
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Originally posted by Sava
then they aren't feminists... if I sh1t in a bag and call it a Turkey, is it a Turkey? |
I'm 99% certain a zoologist would classify it as a fewmet or similar.
I'm no expert on Turkeys, but I posit your "Turkey" wouldn't baste very well.
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Originally posted by Sava
because the term "feminist" came from the 60's and 70's when equality meant progressing a female cause... conservatives have demonized the term in order to equate the equal rights movement with butch-cut man hating b1tches |
Ah... but you ignore that some "feminists" (a MINORITY, true, but still there) really are butch-cut man hating b1tches.
So I'm not a feminist, I'm an egalitarian, and if a "downtrodden" woman wants me to care about her situation, she'd better care about mine, OK?
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03-02-2004 16:40
listen son, feminism isn't about superiority, as the dopey conservative bigots will say...
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