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You ideas on a calibration sprite sound good I could possibly make one if you like.

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you would be more than welcome

MrBaggins,

Yes, I agree. It shall be more about preemptive stuff. But I can't really see the AI handling it so well. That was one reason why I was thinking about this model.

OK my values could be set to a higher value to 'plan' in advance. But I am not sure, that would be a question for our programmers:

Can we have individual build lists for the AI per city?

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Right then what about this one. The base animation is off the net and I can get the spr version compiled today

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Looks great

You think you can get something with a city in the background? Just to get a better idea?

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OK my values could be set to a higher value to 'plan' in advance. But I am not sure, that would be a question for our programmers:

Can we have individual build lists for the AI per city?


Yes... no reason why not.

That system you mentioned could certainly be done, but in some cases, its better to not do the stupid thing that you have to react to, in the first place.

The AI is a subject unto its own. The fact that the AI can't handle certain things isn't a limit on what can be done, its on how things have been done.

To me, hard-coded behaviors like that aren't the solution, because they aren't even close to the ways that humans work... choices of behaviors compete based on current and historic information, and they do so in a globally consistant manner.

This isn't impossible to model; text files can certainly contain priority lists, and conditions that effect those (and other... to make the system globally consistant) can be made, based on game state, and statistical history.

I really have three major conceptual issues... making realistic goals and some of the intricacies of unit mission planning and how grand strategy (victory type and approach) be incorporated into the AI.

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Thats great, TheBigMc.

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Gilgamensch

how about the spr file

Attachment: gx98.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

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Thanks MC, but..........

I forgotten how to open it...........too long ago I played with the graphics..I am no good at........

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Stupid me, we have it right on Apolyton..................(please no comments )

MrBaggins,

how were you thinking to overcome the bad AI-behaviour?

My idea was a using txt-files, where modders could set certain thresholds. Like when to build what.........

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You are planning to put it onto/over the city?

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Basically so, Gilgamensch...

Probability lists, with conditional alterations to those lists... and that would be implemented for all behavior.

My thoughts are in the AI Improvement Discussion thread.

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is there any other graphics we need.

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a burning city might be nice

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we have already got a fire sprite gx11.spr

I was thinking more in the line of a splash screen when you first have a celebration or revolt.

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Splash screen????

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You know civ 2 when you captured a city you had a screen. Something like that.

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That could work. I love the idea of a splash screen. "The Lemurian Herald"

BTW. Does the fire work overlayed on top of the city. I don't recall seeing it. Or does it just happen when your cities are revolting?

It may just be my terrible memory

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how are you activating it. To test it a replaced the special effect for establishing an embassy.

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As for a splash screen I was thinking of something like a ctp city with fire works going off over head.

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The fire is unused currently? It was used in CityExpansion then?

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Something like this. This one would do for riot

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Might be better for destruction/enslaving a city

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well it is the CTP defeat animation

I have done a mock up of what this would look like in ctp2

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I'd prefer a burning city, to a splash screen...

but I'd like a Newspaper a la Civ2 for the
"We love the King day", however.

as well as fireworks...

I hope not to much to ask.

What do you guys think?

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MrBaggins this will be one of the screens with a tick box on it saying "don’t show this message again"

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Yep. But it would be "Cancel subscription" instead

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you are adamant on a newspaper aren’t you

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Actually no... I just want to see something that adds good atmosphere. I know that the newspaper worked very well, however...

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so what So what are we going to call this newspaper

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hehe why not name it "The Daily Planet" i know its an obvious rip but it fits so nicely

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Hmmm...

"The Daily Lemur" or "The Lemurian Herald"



or...

"Warmonger Digest"

 
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