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Carolus Rex is offline Carolus Rex
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Ok, I accepted the barter. Now what? I'm back to the "View barter"-window...

How do I proceed to play my turn?

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I just closed the utility and will play my turn now... Hopefully the barter is updated in the game (although I don't see how, as I will now load the turn SH sent me...)?

Sigh...

Anyway, on with the game!

Carolus

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Thank you for the savegame, Carolus.
I tried to make good use of it (topless Bab women getting sunburnt on all Bab beaches ).

Attachment: ha_a720.net
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

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NP!

Should I do something with the save above?

BTW, this is my first post with my new broadband connection! I say, anyone for MP?

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I don't think you need to do anything with the save above, I think he posted it for DaveV to download if necessary (but if I know La Fayette, he also emailed it to Dave), and also to let the rest of us know where the game is at.

As for your new connection....I did notice that your post appeared quicker then normal.......now I know why

* Sparrowhawk

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Let's see if it can also influence the speed with which I play and pass on my turns in the game...

Do you still play "real" (i. e. not PBEM) MP? I remember our games with Eddy quite fondly... His wife used to set down her foot once or twice ("enough is enough")... One time one of his children had a nightmare so Eddy had to quit to comfort him/her... "Let'em scream, Eddy", I would say, "Trust me, it'll do'em just good!"

Is he still in this PBEM game or is it someone else handling his civ?

Carolus

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I wish I did still play "real" MP Civ but between a lack of time and a lack of other players it became a virtual impossibility for me to play online.

Eddy is still Eddy as far as I know, though if I understand right he is now closer to my time zone then yours (he moved I think).

I too enjoyed our MP games, and rushed home from work a number of times because I knew that you two were waiting for me. Didn't want to keep you awake any later then necessary (or Eddy's wife).

I have moved on lately to EU2 single player (Europa Universalis 2), don't even play SP in Civ anymore

* Sparrowhawk

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I've seen a lot of praise for that game! Seems worth picking up from a bargain bin...

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"The winds are changing... Coming down from the North, carrying the cries of enslaved people...

The living come with grassy tread
To read the gravestones on the hill;
The graveyard draws the living still,

Especially, perhaps, the Mongolian hordes...


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01.30 over here and nothing special to report... Been browsing some old threads... In one (this PBEM's), a player was frustrated because 5 (!) days had passed and there was no progress of the game... I miss the Civ 2 activity of the old days (but I know discussion is hot in other 'Poly fora)...

I think I will have to pick up Civ 4 right away as it comes through the factory gates and jump into discussing the game's aspects...

Never got into Civ 3... What say you, venerable Mongolian leader, is EU and EU 2 worth picking up?

BTW, what did you mean with "vanilla civ" in your post above? Crème de la crème civ?

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Originally posted by Carolus Rex
01.30 over here and nothing special to report... Been browsing some old threads... In one (this PBEM's), a player was frustrated because 5 (!) days had passed and there was no progress of the game... I miss the Civ 2 activity of the old days (but I know discussion is hot in other 'Poly fora)...


Yes, I think the original game had a turnaround of about a week between turns, quite the difference now where if we get the turn back in 3 months it is an accomplishment

quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex
I think I will have to pick up Civ 4 right away as it comes through the factory gates and jump into discussing the game's aspects...

Never got into Civ 3...


I look at Civ 3 in it various versions on a regular basis, but have yet to buy it and not sure I ever will . Tempting, but it almost seems too late to buy it now anyway (though I think it may be too much for my computer to handle ).

quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex
What say you, venerable Mongolian leader, is EU and EU 2 worth picking up?


I remember when I first started playing Civ 2, and I would wake up on a saturday and figure I would start a game.......and the next thing I would know it would be 5:30 a.m. and I was still sitting at the computer, sometimes without eating and defitely without realizing how much time had passed.

With EU2 (I haven't tried EU) it is a similar adiction, though I am at a different point in my life and staying up all night playing is no longer an option. I would say EU2 is as good as Civ, though quite a different type of game. I enjoy it immensely (not sure immensely is a strong enough word, I find myself loading it on my lunchhour to check my progress. I cannot recommend it highly enough (plus it is cheap, and runs on older computers).

I would struggle to come up with a reason not to try it out .

quote:
Originally posted by Carolus Rex
BTW, what did you mean with "vanilla civ" in your post above? Crème de la crème civ?


By "vanilla civ" I mean plain & ordinary (like vanilla ice cream). No mods, no scenario, just vanilla, start at 4000 bc and play the game as it was written by the designers.

My reference above was in answer to Peaster's question about the need to download the scenario in order to assist you and La Fayette with your barter (nothing to download but the game file). I can understand Peaster's assumption in that most of the PBEM Games (though given the number still being played, not sure what "most" is anymore ) are played with a scenario as most of the players don't want to play the initial parts of the game where turns take a minute to play (press enter & save).

Does that explain it better?

* Sparrowhawk

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hey

are you guys going to start a pbem game anytime soon .... cause if so i would like to join if there is room for one more

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Greetings!

I don't know, but if there's interest I would also like to be in it!

As you can see (by rolling back via the link in the first post) these games take quite some time to finish! On the other hand, (at least in the past) it's been easy enough to find replacements should a player's interest fade away...

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yes those games can take awhile .... i am new to pbem games though ... so i would need some help how to save and send such a game .....

and i don't think we need 7 .... maybe with 4 or so we could start one too ..... and see how it goes .....

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Ok.

Let's see what the others say when they check this thread. Maybe we can get a 4 player game going...

I'm not an expert on PBEM games either; I do what the others tell me to do if we run into technical problems!

Mostly, regular play goes like this:

i) You get the save and open it

ii) Choose your civ

iii) Play your turn

iv) At the end (once you have done everything you want during that turn), press "Ctrl + n" (or is it "Ctrl + alt + n"?) to avoid that the AI moves your cities' workers around

v) Save the game and send it to the next player

vi) Wait X months for your next turn and forget all the plans and strategies you were forging the last turn...

I also believe there is "real" MP in the beginning to get the game started as the first turns are so short. Perhaps a couple of hours...

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Still trying to resurrect this game? Good luck!



No need to resurrect it; it's still running!

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Seems we need to prove Straybow wrong, guys...

Where's the game now?

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Last I saw it was sitting with Eddy (I think DaveV sent him the turn sometime in late April).

Not sure if Eddy sent it on yet, but I doubt it , as kengel is pretty reliable for sending it fairly soon.

* Sparrowhawk

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Whatever you do,
stay away from EU2!
It will destroy your life,
(or at least p*** off the wife!)

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Too late, it is my latest adiction!! Great Game!!

of course I spend way too much time playing and get less sleep as a result, but does it really matter as long as ___________ ends out as the world power?

* fill in your choice country in the blank above, in my case it is currently Venice, the major power of Europe in 1770

Back on topic......but at least EU2 helps keep me occupied while waiting for my turn in Civ to come back around....of course when it does i will need to search for my disk, it has been so long since I played last

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I was totally flummoxed by the sheer number of different factions......and the scale of the thing is just breathtaking. It's the first God Game I 've ever played in which "conquering the entire world" seems not only impossible, but frankly undesirable!

I salivate at the prospect of a future version starting in 4000 BC!

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Okay, game played and forwarded to Carolus (by Email).



* Sparrowhawk


Wow..... I looked back to see my last turn and it was sent as quoted above, March 16, 2005 or 3 1/2 months ago.

I have played the next turn and sent on the save to Carolus tonight (June 27, 2005).

Germanos would love this game!!

* Sparrowhawk

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I was totally flummoxed by the sheer number of different factions......and the scale of the thing is just breathtaking. It's the first God Game I 've ever played in which "conquering the entire world" seems not only impossible, but frankly undesirable!

I salivate at the prospect of a future version starting in 4000 BC!


I can't agree more, the game is great and I too can't help but compare to Civ (starting in 4000 BC). Not sure what you mean by the conquering the whole world being not only impossible but undersirable as well. In my current game (Venice) I have been trying to conquer as much as possible and with only 1 1/2 years remaining (May 1818) I control the majority of Europe and North America, along with significant portions of the Middle East, Africa and South America. I think that as I get better i will be able to conquer the majority of the world, and hope to do so. Why do you think this is undesirable (though you are right in that it is likely a virtual impossibility to conquer the entire world).

(by the way, I am only playing on "Normal" difficulty , which may be why I was able to conquer the majority of Europe).

By the way, not sure if you have noticed, but in the "other games" section of these Forums there is a "Paradox" Forum which has discussion of Europa Universalis. I am still new to the game (my only complete game so far was as Scotland) and have picked up a lot from fellow Apolytoners. Perhaps we could continue this discussion there?

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Will play my turn soon, really soon...

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Will play my turn soon, really soon...



Sure you will, Carolus, we are very confident

BTW Sparrowhawk, may I suggest that we enforce the 72h law (someone hits Control+N if a player has not played his turn after 72h)?

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While that sounds great to me to get this game moving again, it sounds like an abrupt change to a game that has been moving so slowly (often 1 month + at one player).

Not sure we could enforce this as it would result in probably 3 of the players having their turns "control N" on a regular basis.

Having said that, I would be in favour of some time limit.

* Sparrowhawk

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I would be in favour of some time limit.

* Sparrowhawk


What about a week then ?
Other players are invited to give their opinion.

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Hi guys,
great thread, thanks for keeping this great game alive!
I wish I would have much more time to help this game keep running...
The last turn stayed very long at Eddy, because he had trouble with a new PC and civ installation and so on.
And very often it happens, that a player is not available for a longer time.

Nevertheless, this game will not die!

I would agree with a time limit of perhaps a week.
But I think we could speed up the game, if we use alliance player.

There are obviously alliances in this game, and perhaps it makes sense if alliance players could sub for each other after a time limit.

This could fit for me/Sparrowhawk,
Eddy / Ian,
Babylon / french ?
Just for the romans I do not know an adequate alliance player, but perhaps Carolus knows

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Both setting a one week time limit and using substitute players (allies) make sense to me.

Just for anyone interested, I took a few minutes to summarize the dates when I sent on turns, to give an idea of time between turns.

280 AD - January 04/2003
300 AD - March 22/2003
320 AD - April 18/2003
340 AD - May 15/2003
360 AD - June 14/2003
380 AD - July 09/2003
400 AD - July 29/2003
420 AD - August 06/2003
440 AD - August 24/2003
460 AD - August 30/2003
480 AD - September 16/2003
500 AD - October 06/2003
520 AD - October 15/2003
540 AD - November 07/2003
560 AD - November 27/2003
580 AD - December 11/2003
600 AD - January 18/2004
620 AD - March 04/2004
640 AD - June 09/2004
660 AD - November 07/2004
680 AD - December 08/2004
700 AD - March 16/2005
720 AD - June 27/2005

* Sparrowhawk

 
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