17-02-2004 00:17									#391
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quote: Originally posted by Ned BTW, the AP is now reporting denials by both the woman and her father in terms that sound like they were written by the Kerry campaign. The father, who Friday called Kerry a sleaseball, now praises him and said he intends to vote for him. This press release reeks of a coverup.

Oh please. Let's see the difference:

AP quote: direct from the girl and parents.

Initial quotes on Drudge: unnamed reporting sources.

I'm not surprised you won't admit when you're wrong, but in an especially sleazy matter as this, your continued wallowing in the mud just embarrasses you more.

	17-02-2004 00:19									#392
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Was he asked about it?

Wouldn't you?

	17-02-2004 00:21									#393
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Wouldn't you?

Yes, I would, which is why I find it odd that there was nothing in the posts about it. It is conspicuous by its absence.

	17-02-2004 00:25									#394
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk He didn't deny the slimeball comment.

"We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States."

Would he vote for a man he called a slimeball and felt had inappropriate pursued his daughter?

	17-02-2004 00:25									#395
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Oh please. Let's see the difference: AP quote: direct from the girl and parents. Initial quotes on Drudge: unnamed reporting sources. I'm not surprised you won't admit when you're wrong, but in an especially sleazy matter as this, your continued wallowing in the mud just embarrasses you more.

The quote from the father came from the Brit newspapers.

	17-02-2004 00:29									#396
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There is nothing in the news about it. No confirmation, no denial, nothing.

Even if the question wasn't asked (assuming all the reporters there were really that incompetent), I would have voluteered the information in the statement, so people would not make the point I did above (and to screw over whoever lied about what I said in the papers).

The only reason I can think of that the denial would not be brought forward, is that there's a recording of it somewhere.

	17-02-2004 00:32									#397
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov "We appreciate the way Senator Kerry has handled the situation, and intend on voting for him for president of the United States." Would he vote for a man he called a slimeball and felt had inappropriate pursued his daughter?

Yes, he would say so, if not saying so would make his daughter, a journalist, out to be a liar.

edit: doing to saying, and added phrase, because I misread the original post.

	17-02-2004 00:34									#398
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Let's put it another way. Everytime somone's poted a Telegraph story here, it's been descredited pretty quickly. Without another source, I'm not willing to consider anything that rag has to say credible.

	17-02-2004 00:37									#399
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That dosen't address the lack of a denial. Denials are given all the time, even when the story's from "a rag"

Like Kerry did.

	17-02-2004 00:45									#400
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quote: Originally posted by Ned BTW, the AP is now reporting denials by both the woman and her father in terms that sound like they were written by the Kerry campaign. The father, who Friday called Kerry a sleaseball, now praises him and said he intends to vote for him.

you donīt really believe, this "affair" would be strawman covering an arsenal of JFK sex affairs, do you?

	17-02-2004 00:53									#401
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oedo, I simply note the inconsistency between the fathers statement Friday and his statement today.

Does anyone recall how many of Clinton's bimbo were coerced into signing affidavits that they had no relations with Bill? Quite a few.

Ditto Michael Jackson and his young "friends."

	17-02-2004 00:58									#402
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This girl looks like my ex-girlfriend!!

Seriously this is freaking me out. I have my home page set on the drudge report, and seeing her picture every time I open my browser is freaking me out. I can't get away from her. Of course she's dead now (my ex-girlfriend- not Kerrys main squeeze)

	17-02-2004 00:59									#403
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quote: Originally posted by Ned The victim:

she looks exactly like my ex-girlfriend. That really bothers me.

	17-02-2004 01:10									#404
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So much comment on something so irrelevent and so little comment when soemthing relevent was brought up.

	17-02-2004 01:34									#405
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The parents are Republicans who don't like Kerry? This from the Washington Post.

"The Washington Post London correspondent Glenn Frankel, a Pulitzer Prize winner and former editor of the Post's Sunday magazine, defended his newspaper's editorial judgment.

"We've been down this road many, many times before. We are extremely reluctant to follow this kind of thing up unless there is a really, really compelling public interest. We don't feel there is any reason to until it reaches a threshold.

"All we have at the moment is that the woman's parents, who are republicans, don't like Senator Kerry.

"In any case, nobody would be too shocked if Kerry lied about an affair. Even if someone came to us with photographs we still wouldn't run it. Lying to Don Imus [the radio host to whom Kerry gave his initial denial] is not a federal offence."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3493277.stm

	17-02-2004 01:34									#406
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quote: Originally posted by oedo you donīt really believe, this "affair" would be strawman covering an arsenal of JFK sex affairs, do you?

Well, now that you mention it...

quote: The Washington Post London correspondent Glenn Frankel, a Pulitzer Prize winner and former editor of the Post's Sunday magazine, defended his newspaper's editorial judgment. "We've been down this road many, many times before. We are extremely reluctant to follow this kind of thing up unless there is a really, really compelling public interest. We don't feel there is any reason to until it reaches a threshold. "All we have at the moment is that the woman's parents, who are republicans, don't like Senator Kerry. "In any case, nobody would be too shocked if Kerry lied about an affair. Even if someone came to us with photographs we still wouldn't run it. Lying to Don Imus [the radio host to whom Kerry gave his initial denial] is not a federal offence."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3493277.stm

BBC covererage of The Washington Post's coverage of this story.

	17-02-2004 01:35									#407
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So nice we post it twice!

	17-02-2004 01:38									#408
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quote: The question, it appears, was first raised by aides in the campaign of retired General Wesley Clark, who himself was quoted as saying that Kerry's campaign might "implode". It has not so far and Clark has even endorsed Kerry himself.

This is the BBC, now.

	17-02-2004 01:50									#409
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I find it more than inconsistent that these Republican parents who don't like Kerry would issue a statement that they are going to vote for him.

But the fact that the liberal media will not cover this story even if they had photos of Kerry in the act with the woman does seem to illustrate the dramatic hypocrisy of the left.

	17-02-2004 02:16									#410
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CNN just did a story about it. They specifically pointed out that the media looking into a rumor (which is really what the Drudge Report says) is completely different from substantiated facts.

	17-02-2004 02:23									#411
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quote: Originally posted by Ned But the fact that the liberal media will not cover this story even if they had photos of Kerry in the act with the woman does seem to illustrate the dramatic hypocrisy of the left.

Ned I'm willing to buy into almost any conspiracy theory by the Dems you have to offer here. so what? it's about nothing, and especially nothing about politics.
do only the Reps have a right to smear or what is your point?

	17-02-2004 02:30									#412
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quote: Originally posted by oedo Ned I'm willing to buy into almost any conspiracy theory by the Dems you have to offer here. so what? it's about nothing, and especially nothing about politics. do only the Reps have a right to smear or what is your point?

Maybe in your part of the world, but over here, for better or worse, voters do take such things into account, whether it makes sense or not.

	17-02-2004 02:31									#413
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I'm amused.

	17-02-2004 02:33									#414
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous CNN just did a story about it. They specifically pointed out that the media looking into a rumor (which is really what the Drudge Report says) is completely different from substantiated facts.

Of course it's different. I just find it interesting that they would hide the story from the public even if there were substantiated facts (i.e., photos).

Actually, I find that little look into the thoughts of WP reporters very interesting, indeed.

	17-02-2004 02:34									#415
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'm amused.

Greatest Show On Earth.

	17-02-2004 02:34									#416
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk This is the BBC, now.

Actually that detail CONTRADICTS the Drudge story by saying an aid said it rather than Clark himself. It certainly doesn't help Drudge's credibility in general.

	17-02-2004 02:38									#417
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quote: Originally posted by Ned oedo, I simply note the inconsistency between the fathers statement Friday and his statement today. Does anyone recall how many of Clinton's bimbo were coerced into signing affidavits that they had no relations with Bill? Quite a few.

This isn't a very plausible scenario here. If the parents were being pressured, they easily could have contactacted conservative politicians and have gotten immediate effective help. Bribery to get them to say this isn't very plausible because conservative members of the media would be all over it, and it would probably ruin Kerry politically if he got caught. Its possible the daugher contacted her parents and got them to issue the second statement, buts that's not exactly a scenario resembling the one that you are presenting.

	17-02-2004 02:42									#418
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quote: Actually that detail CONTRADICTS the Drudge story by saying an aid said it rather than Clark himself. It certainly doesn't help Drudge's credibility in general.

So that makes the whole thing untrue?

The fact is, you can no longer pin this on "Republican Mechanations", and you can no longer dismiss it as something only covered by "rags".

Your ball.

	17-02-2004 02:47									#419
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Kenya?

www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/29/

	17-02-2004 02:51									#420
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I think I'll run for office, so I can get me some sex scandel lovin'