17-02-2004 15:11									#31
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Don't head to Italy then - I personally think he views President of the UK as a stepping stone to being 'Emporer' of Europe.

Just call him Boney.

	17-02-2004 17:05									#32
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Beaut. Someone for Tamerlin's offspring to bore our offspring sh*tless about.

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quote: I've managed to translate it, but one of the ingredients is Piment d'espelette. I gather it's derived from capsicum (peppers) and used as a substitute for pepper in some regional cooking. Is it like a hot paprika?

Piment d'espelette tastes much stronger than pepper, and has a different flavour. You could call it hot paprika. I wouldn't, but for lack of anything better, well, yes. It's softer than most other piments, and has traditionally been dried on the outer walls of the houses of the basque town of Espelette. It's rather small for a piment and not very strong, but still stronger than paprika. It's reddish brown. If you can't find this, chili pepper or paprika would probably work as a substitute. The problem being to have a quantity corresponding to the Espelette variety. Depends whether you like it hot or not.

	18-02-2004 02:44									#34
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Thanks for that, LDiCesares. Pretty much what I thought. We have a couple of providores in Sydney who import French and Italian regional specialties, so I'll check with them. If they don't have it, I suspect hot paprika will probably be the closest I'll come to it. The dish is basically tomatoes cooked with cébettes, garlic, bouquet garni and Piment d'Espelette, puréed, cooled, then churned in an ice-cream machine. A savory sorbet. So the Piment d'Espelette should only be a hint rather than dominant.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar Thanks for that, LDiCesares. Pretty much what I thought. We have a couple of providores in Sydney who import French and Italian regional specialties, so I'll check with them. If they don't have it, I suspect hot paprika will probably be the closest I'll come to it. The dish is basically tomatoes cooked with cébettes, garlic, bouquet garni and Piment d'Espelette, puréed, cooled, then churned in an ice-cream machine. A savory sorbet. So the Piment d'Espelette should only be a hint rather than dominant.

You are a master in the art of cooking... I renew my offer when you come in France: you cook, I wash the dishes.

The Piment d'Espelette is simply a pepper cultivated in the area of the village of Espelette (charming name by the way and even more with the southern accent ) in the Pays Basque (it came from Mexico to Spain and then from Spain).

It is said to be of a beautiful red and to have a sugared and fruity perfume with a subtly hot taste. Once ground, the Piment d'Espelette replaces the classic pepper in the Basque food.




Are you sure you want to replace it by something else?

	18-02-2004 06:22									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin You are a master in the art of cooking... I renew my offer when you come in France: you cook, I wash the dishes.

Do you have a gas or electric stove? You'd better say gas!

quote: The Piment d'Espelette is simply a pepper cultivated in the area of the village of Espelette (charming name by the way and even more with the southern accent ) in the Pays Basque (it came from Mexico to Spain and then from Spain). It is said to be of a beautiful red and to have a sugared and fruity perfume with a subtly hot taste. Once ground, the Piment d'Espelette replaces the classic pepper in the Basque food.

How do you know all this? I can understand LDiCesares knowing it, even if he has played hooker and has a dubious fondness for mud.

quote: Are you sure you want to replace it by something else?

Living in this sh*thole of a backwater, I shall probably have to substitue something else!

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quote: Originally posted by finbar Do you have a gas or electric stove? You'd better say gas!

Gas, of course!

quote: How do you know all this? I can understand LDiCesares knowing it, even if he has played hooker and has a dubious fondness for mud.

A quick research on the internet and a bit of translation...

quote: Living in this sh*thole of a backwater, I shall probably have to substitue something else!

This is the trouble with barbarians, they are satisfied with what they can grab with their hands when it could be far better with a bit of patience.

	18-02-2004 06:36									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Gas, of course!

That's all right then. Electricity's a bugger when it comes to controlling temperatures cooking on top of the stove.

quote: A quick research on the internet and a bit of translation...

LDiCesares knew it without having to look it up. You should try playing hooker and rolling in the mud!

quote: This is the trouble with barbarians, they are satisfied with what they can grab with their hands when it could be far better with a bit of patience.

It's the trouble with me being born in the wrong hemisphere!

	18-02-2004 07:56									#39
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quote: Originally posted by finbar LDiCesares knew it without having to look it up. You should try playing hooker and rolling in the mud!

Too late!

quote: It's the trouble with me being born in the wrong hemisphere!

Could be a bad Karma, you must have done something as horrible as Caligastia "the criminal"* in your previous life.




* Better known as the infamous Caligulastia

	18-02-2004 09:35									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Tamerlin Too late!

It's never too late. Come on, turn on the garden hose in the front garden and create some mud ...

What's that? You don't have a front garden? Okay, buy a couple of bags of soil, spread it around the living room. Turn on the nearest tap and leave it running, whack on a pair of footy boots, gather deux gros morceaux de boeuf, one either side of you ...

You'll be as well-informed as LDiCesares in no time!

quote: Could be a bad Karma, you must have done something as horrible as Caligastia "the criminal"* in your previous life.

Fear not, I punish my parents. Frequently.

	18-02-2004 13:30									#41
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quote: It's the trouble with me being born in the wrong hemisphere!

This has been framed and will be ruthlessly used out of context!

Is it this weekend the S12 starts for real? I'm keen to catch a few matches again. I'm interested to see what happens to ACT with half the squad moved on and the other half hating the coach.

All baiting aside however it is unfortunate for a UK based fan that S12 overlaps with the six nations - with the best will in the world no club competition is as intense as watching full on internationals every week.

Although the comparison begs the question could Scotland finish above twelfth place in S12.

*Edit* oh yes - my sincere apologies for posting something on topic.

	18-02-2004 14:46									#42
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Tamerlin, you can pop up on any rugby field in the world (except professional grounds of course) and say "I want to play hooker". I can guarantee you will get a match immediately, even though you may be tall, thin and missing one leg. Mud is easily found, too.
I actually looked the web for translations of the word piment. I couldn't think of anything better than pepper, and, horror, there's nothing better! Piments, poivre, reduced to a single word in English. Argh. Now this made me realise I have no paprika left home, only Cayenne, which is obviously far stronger (would make a good alternative to Espelette, by teh way, except it's stronger).
Slightly more on-topic, I noticed that Michalak won't be playing against Italy, but Peyrelongue will replace him. I think it will be his first selection. Yet another player from Peyrehorade. If that village was bigger, I think all French players would come from that place.

	18-02-2004 16:58									#43
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Remember Mark Connors Finbar? He is currently serving an RFU ban for punching an opponent...

	18-02-2004 17:38									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Havak This has been framed and will be ruthlessly used out of context!

Frame it, put it in neon lights, quote it often as possible.

quote: Is it this weekend the S12 starts for real? I'm keen to catch a few matches again. I'm interested to see what happens to ACT with half the squad moved on and the other half hating the coach.

Yes. Starts Friday night. The Reds -v- Highlanders in Invercargill. That's the last bit of NZ before you get to Antarctica. I have three matches back-to-back to watch on Saturday afternoon and night. The only match being played in the Australian heat is the Brumbies -v- Blues in Canberra on Saturday night. It won't be as hot as Sydney or Brisbane, but it's still going to be pretty warm.

EDIT. I just heard the forecast. It's going to be 36C in Canberra on Saturday, so it should be down to about 26C on Saturday night.

Ewen McKenzie, new Waratahs' coach, has opted for new blood against the Crusaders with three new caps. We shall see. Nice new second row, though. Vickerman and Plank.

quote: Although the comparison begs the question could Scotland finish above twelfth place in S12.

Someone else has already suggested that.

quote: *Edit* oh yes - my sincere apologies for posting something on topic.

What, anyway, would a retired tighthead possibly have to offer in a conversation about electric stoves -v- gas stoves, Basque pepper substitutes, mud, and the finer points of hooking?

	18-02-2004 17:40									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Remember Mark Connors Finbar? He is currently serving an RFU ban for punching an opponent...

Mmmm. He could do that occasionally.

	18-02-2004 17:53									#46
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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare Tamerlin, you can pop up on any rugby field in the world (except professional grounds of course) and say "I want to play hooker". I can guarantee you will get a match immediately, even though you may be tall, thin and missing one leg. Mud is easily found, too.

There you are, Tamerlin, from the mouth - well, okay, the typing fingers - of an expert. So get on with it!

quote: I actually looked the web for translations of the word piment. I couldn't think of anything better than pepper, and, horror, there's nothing better! Piments, poivre, reduced to a single word in English. Argh.

Not necessarily so. Depends where in the English-speaking world you are. Poivre does mean pepper, as in the seasoning often paired with salt, and that's universal. But piments are called everything from peppers to pimento to capsicums.

quote: Now this made me realise I have no paprika left home, only Cayenne, which is obviously far stronger (would make a good alternative to Espelette, by teh way, except it's stronger).

Yes, cayenne would be in a different league. Still, I propose that you and Tamerlin get together - he can teach you how to shop for the pantry, and you can teach him how to play hooker and love mud.

quote: Slightly more on-topic

Oh, okay. I'll leave that to Havak.

	18-02-2004 18:27									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Havak Context is a killer.

I'm still alive.

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quote: Frame it, put it in neon lights, quote it often as possible.

Even though it will largely be out of context when I do?

quote: The only match being played in the Australian heat is the Brumbies -v- Blues in Canberra on Saturday night. It won't be as hot as Sydney or Brisbane, but it's still going to be pretty warm.

What a terrific opening fixture for a club in crisis! They had best hope Blues cannot handle the temperature?

quote: Nice new second row, though. Vickerman and Plank.

Don’t you think the jury is back out on Vickerman after the RWC?

quote: Someone else has already suggested that.

Did they? My apologies to them.

quote: What, anyway, would a retired tighthead possibly have to offer in a conversation about electric stoves -v- gas stoves, Basque pepper substitutes, mud, and the finer points of hooking?

A little, nothing, a lot and bug’rall in that order.

Hookers are usually psychotic which is why LDiCesares reasoned tone and depth of knowledge scare me even more.

Connors only got a week by the way – he didn’t even floor his opponent. Handbags stuff but the citing official was clearly in a bad mood.

I would guess from the news about the French half backs that we will get the rare site of a scrummie taking all the shots at goal for France then – Elissalde?

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quote: Originally posted by Havak Hookers are usually psychotic which is why LDiCesares reasoned tone and depth of knowledge scare me even more.

*flipside realises that he and Brian Moore have a lot to answer for.*

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quote: Originally posted by Havak Yes Italy head to Cardiff for their last game. Wales expect that to be for the Grand Slam. You have to admire their optimism – they are still basically a poor side that has had some success swinging the ball wide recently.

I reckon, that their game against us will be the biggest test of their progress.
They will not beat England, and France would have to start picking teams for the next WC to lose .
They could well beat us, though, as well, we could well beat them.
That , the decider in France, and the Scotland/Italy game will be the most interesting games.

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quote: I would guess from the news about the French half backs that we will get the rare site of a scrummie taking all the shots at goal for France then – Elissalde?

I think so. Yachvili kicks in Biarritz, so Peyrelongue will not be kicking. I doubt Traille will kick, though he could.

And I am not psychotic. I just behave differently on the field and outside. A former coach of mine said, 'leave your brain on the bench before you enter the pitch.' This can be pretty useful when you're going to face old front rowers who will see every foul you make and more, while superbly ignoring every one they themselves do.

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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare And I am not psychotic. I just behave differently on the field and outside. A former coach of mine said, 'leave your brain on the bench before you enter the pitch.' This can be pretty useful when you're going to face old front rowers who will see every foul you make and more, while superbly ignoring every one they themselves do.

Just like this thread .
"Check your brain in by the door, and commment on what you know."

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quote: Originally posted by Havak This has been framed and will be ruthlessly used out of context! Is it this weekend the S12 starts for real? I'm keen to catch a few matches again. I'm interested to see what happens to ACT with half the squad moved on and the other half hating the coach. All baiting aside however it is unfortunate for a UK based fan that S12 overlaps with the six nations - with the best will in the world no club competition is as intense as watching full on internationals every week.

Unfortunately there is still no 6 nations coverage here so I'm definitely looking forward to the opening games of the Super 12. Blues v Brumbies should be particularly interesting. I still think the Brumbies will be a good first test for the Blues despite all the changes. Also, the Brumbies still have Gregan, so that will be motivation for the Blues to stamp his head in.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar Yes. Starts Friday night. The Reds -v- Highlanders in Invercargill. That's the last bit of NZ before you get to Antarctica. I have three matches back-to-back to watch on Saturday afternoon and night. The only match being played in the Australian heat is the Brumbies -v- Blues in Canberra on Saturday night. It won't be as hot as Sydney or Brisbane, but it's still going to be pretty warm. EDIT. I just heard the forecast. It's going to be 36C in Canberra on Saturday, so it should be down to about 26C on Saturday night.

I'll be able to see Brumbies v Blues and Crusaders v Waratahs. The other two won't be shown over here.

I reckon the Waratahs might give the Crusaders a bit of a suprise. Perhaps they'll avenge that 70-odd point thrashing they got a couple of years ago.

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quote: Unfortunately there is still no 6 nations coverage here

What are you still doing in such a backwater country? One would hope that, with the many people of Irish origin and the British that must be living out there they could show some of it.

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quote: Originally posted by finbar There you are, Tamerlin, from the mouth - well, okay, the typing fingers - of an expert. So get on with it!

I am sure that he would direct me towards the back lines if he had seen me before. I can run very quickly thanks to my light build and I think that the idea of being caught by a forward and his mates are an encouragement to run faster than usual.

quote: Still, I propose that you and Tamerlin get together - he can teach you how to shop for the pantry, and you can teach him how to play hooker and love mud.

I don't worry for the pantry of a Rugby player in France, they all love what is good, believe me.

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quote: Originally posted by Havak Even though it will largely be out of context when I do?

Look, the best - or worst - you'll manage will be to extrapolate it into something anti-SH rugby. In which case, as always, it will be water off a buck's dacks.

quote: What a terrific opening fixture for a club in crisis! They had best hope Blues cannot handle the temperature?

I suppose the Brumbies will be glad it's a home match. It's actually a choice opening round of matches, with the Waratahs -v- Crusaders on Saturday.

Oh, and the ex-Bok U21 skipper is starting his first match for the Brumbies on the wing.

quote: Don’t you think the jury is back out on Vickerman after the RWC?

I don't think it was all his fault. Our lineout was sh*t for a lot of the time with and/or without him. And he's still relatively young. Still, I suppose just about exactly the same could be said about your Mr Kaye after his RWC performance.

quote: Hookers are usually psychotic which is why LDiCesares reasoned tone and depth of knowledge scare me even more.

Yes, the same thing occurred to me. I suspect LDiCesares pops into a phone box outside the ground as LDiCesares and pops out again as a hooker with a mud fetish.

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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare And I am not psychotic. I just behave differently on the field and outside. A former coach of mine said, 'leave your brain on the bench before you enter the pitch.'

Or in the phone box outside the ground.

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quote: Originally posted by flipside Just like this thread . "Check your brain in by the door, and commment on what you know."

Vis à vis, the latter - wrong thread.

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quote: Originally posted by LDiCesare What are you still doing in such a backwater country? One would hope that, with the many people of Irish origin and the British that must be living out there they could show some of it.

I think you'll find the problem is that rugby - and a lot of other fine games - don't get a look in behind three of the most over-rated and uninteresting games ever invented: gridiron, baseball and basketball.